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The fact that people actually believe that this is all the democrats are currently doing clearly illustrates exactly why we had so many protest voters.
It seems as if the far left won’t ever be convinced of anything unless it-
A) Agrees with what they already believe
B) Is in an easy-to-read meme format
C) Comes from their communal clipboard of copypasta marxist rhetiric.
I’m incredibly angry that trump won, but not at all surprised. These people make up not just a portion of our voting body, but also a huge portion of our NON-voting body.
What are they doing? Wait I'll do you one better. What else can they do, but re-evaluate what they've been doing?
Google “Democrats” then select the “News” tab. That’ll get you going in the right direction.
So nothing, they're whining and doing nothing
We will always see what we want to see.
I've voted Dem my entire life, my entire life the Dems have never meaningfully improved anything except for medicare and I don't qualify for that.
I get it that the Dems are the ones who push policy, just to conviently break ranks and vote down their own bills whenever there is actually bills that force the rich to make concessions.
The Duopoly works together to maintain power
We will see what we want to see, but if you bothered yourself to look up from the year of your birth to now- what the democrats have done, you’d be embarrassed to have sad this.
Not arguing futility. We can agree to disagree and end this cordially.
Have a good day my friend.
You say Democrats are constantly pushing legislation that fixes real problems and doesn't just get undone every 4 years and set back to 0. What was something good that Biden did thatbis still around and actually helping people?
When people don't meaningfully improve society and fix problems, that means they aren't helpful.
Sorry you feel differently.
You say democrats aren’t consistently pushing legislation that fixes real problems because you aren’t seeing the effect of it.
Maybe stop looking at what you want to see, and humble yourself enough to see the things that prove you wrong.
I gave you a chance to totally make your point but you can't even provide a single example because even you know nothing helpful gets passed under any leadership in this country.
I want to see a party force the rich to make concessions to the american people, I want weqlth inequality fixed so our global economy stops destabilizing, i want any leadership that gives a shit about the people who live in this country.
You saying other see what they want is projection and you should really self reflect on why you support a party that sucks the cocks of the rich
The problem is that the rest of us live in reality where your ideology can’t exist.
I don't see why you were down voted regardless of what they found this is true. we only see what we want to see
Just like their protest votes, they think downvoting is somehow relevant. And also just like their downvotes, they lack the courage it takes to actually put their name on their choice and own the fact that not liking something isn’t enough to create the change you demand of others- it takes both work, and communication.
Not staying home and folding arms in defiance of a system incapable of being perfect in their eyes.
Is it the leftists folding their arms and refusing to move or is it the Democrats? Last I checked, one is an actual fucking organization who deliberately chose to give the middle finger to immigrants by running on trump 2016 policy, middle finger to middle eastern and in general genocide haters by continuing to arm an active genocide and then belittle those people, and run with lizz fucking cheny cause they thought they could win the "centrists" and were fucking wrong.
But nooo. Let's not blame the organization with the plan that didn't fucking work. Let's blame the analogous concept of "disgruntled leftists" and babify them, belittle them, and do the whole clusterfuck of mistakes again.
Except you ain't even some Democrat analysis. Your a random fucking dude who's just scared as shit of the fascism barreling down at you at speeds that boggle the mind. I get it. Shits scary. Me and you, we are cool. We can be friends, politically allies. But the way to do that is to yell at the organization who failed both of us. Not tell them they did nothing wrong and that it's actually the thing that cannot be changed fault.
Do I wish we could of come out and voted to slow down the train? Of course. But it didn't happen. And with clear eyes I can see that ultimately it was the Dems who gambled that they could win without those groups and were fucking wrong.
Thanks for being a shining example of my point.
Okay bro. No conversation, no nothing. Just sass and superiority. See you next election (maybe) for your smug ass to complain again as your most smartest and bestest party in the world shoots themselves in the foot again. You'll still be here. I may still be here. Fortunately for you, liberals are real good at blending and surviving fascist regimes.
What is going on in your head where you think that just because you said things, you’re obligated to a discussion on it? I don’t exercise futility… “bro.”
If I thought for a second this could be a mature discussion, we’d be having one, but I and my “smug ass” have argued with hundreds of versions of you hundreds of times over many years- and I’ve learned that there’s no getting through to any of you.
As I understand it, if you’re ever going to come around to common sense, you people can’t have someone else show you the way- no, you have to do it yourself so you can claim it as a personal victory- because arrogance drives ignorance drives arrogance.
And because people like you will never have the humility to admit that you have extremely flawed logic, I see no point in wasting the time debating with you.
Lastly- You’re free to attempt an accusation of hypocrisy- to, accuse me of the same, but I’ll only tell you that I am the way I am now because I had the humility to allow people to show me when I was wrong, to accept it, and then to grow from it. So when you’re ready to stop the childish ad hominem and give up the high school debate class aggression- maybe we can talk. Until then-
I said what I wanted to have said. And that is that. You are going to have to be okay with this.
Enjoy having the last word, and then, the rest of your evening.
Then why comment at all? You just expositing your wisdom on the world and fuck every other viewpoint that doesn't immediately concede to yours? I came at you to explain a view point you clearly don't understand and you jumped it with belittlement and disrespect because you can't be bothered to talk about your ideas with someone. You can only monologue.
I took, like you, have had this argument with hundreds of people but I keep my heart and mind open to every single one. That's called being a human being. Ain't my fault you have become as jaded with the Internet.
Talk about "growth" like your the only person who's grown in the world. "Humility" like you already paid that due and now you don't have to have it anymore. You wanna talk about growth and humility? I can talk growth and humility and buddy, if you think that's a virtue you live by you are deluded.
Here's the bit. You were lazy and didn't wanna talk. You got called on it. You said what you had to so you didn't look weak on the fucking internet. Very humility of you.
Here's some humility. I'm okay to start over and have a genuine conversation about the original topic. We both threw some insults, now we set them down, act like people, and talk about the problem we both experienced and try to understand what went wrong. What say you?