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The democrats know all these things and don’t care. they’re just as much in service to the billionaires as the republicans.
They'd rather lose to Republicans than cross their "donors."
The gravy train runs to both parties as long as they protect this sociopathic grift of an economy from the people it enslaves. The DNC would consider winning on a platform of ending oligarchy (which could only ever happen with a left wing populist that steals the party out from under them like Trump did to the GOP, solely to steal their grift machine in his case) a catastrophic defeat and national crisis on the level we wish they'd treat Trump like.
It's why leaders like Nancy Pelosi make it their mission to sabotage spoiler members (because both parties promote on the basis of being a good bribe getter and taker) like AOC. She spent weeks before Trump was inaugurated making calls to prevent AOC's committee leadership bid. There's the DNC's priorities.
Our whole captured government is a game of neoliberal/fascist-good cop/bad cop. Do you want to waste your life enriching sociopath would be pharoahs with affirmation ribbons or scapegoats? A con game we can't stop playing as we're exploited dry.
Liberals don't care. Socialists / progressives do care. Bernie and AOC have consistently fought to expand class consciousness and to fight against the growing wealth disparity
The "liberals" you speak of are just conservatives larping as liberals
The word for a liberal that cares about class consciousness is "Error: undefined. Did you mean socialist?"
Isn't AOC a Democrat?
I generally avoid painting them all with a single brush like that.
Some absolutely are bought off like you describe. But an awful lot are not — the big problem we've had is that the contingent of the bought off Democrats plus the Republicans has been enough to block meaningful action, even when the Democrats have had a nominal majority.
I’m tired of the excuse making for them. It’s like sitting at a table of 10 Nazis. Guess what? It’s 11 Nazis.
Problem with that view is that minority of the Democrats were bought off, like about 4%. And they had a hard time winning reelection as a result
Try 99% of them.
If so, it doesn't show up in voting records or rhetoric.
Definitely the party leaders who consistently outperform the S and P
I dislike this comparison because it invokes a circular reasoning / begging the question fallacy:
What we are debating is whether all billionaires are bad. Then you raise a comparison trying to prove they're all bad by associating them with nazis.
But we haven't yet established if the 10 billionaires around a table are all inherently evil or to the same degree to begin with.
Bill Gates or Warren Buffett are not as bad as Musk or the Waltons. At least the former believe they shouldn't exist in the first place. So when fighting fascism we kind of need all the resources we can get.
The last 3 elections have shown there are only two groups: Republicans and Republicans that get paid less.
I feel like they get paid just as much only put on a fucking costume and pretend to be something they aren’t.
But thank you for your sane comment in a world of complete fucking insanity and denial about what’s really going on.
True. Maybe "Republicans and JV Republicans" is more accurate?
Oooo good one.
Taking bets if there is a 2028 election (there won’t be) the democrats will run Liz Cheney.
Controlled opposition.
But still better than whatever is happening now. I can't imagine a Nazi salute at Kamala's inauguration.
True, liberals are the lesser evil compared to neocons and fascists.
But the top 100 richest billionaires grew their wealth by 63% under Biden so liberalism still inevitably leads to extreme wealth disparities that erode democracy until neo-feudalistic oligarchy is all that will remain
They'd never go after their donors but at least I don't have to worry about a second Wannsee Conference.
Kevin Phillips, the Republican architect of the "Southern Strategy, has a vastly different view. He essentially said, in his book, "American Dynasty", that Republicans think of the working class as dirt to be used however they royally please, while Democrats at least acknowledged that the working class enabled them to be where they are and supported them.
BYTW, Kevin Phillips, who is very politically knowledgeable, is now extremely disillusioned with Republicans and generally hates both parties.
Maybe that was true in 2004 when it was published but it is no longer true. Both see the working class as dirt.
Republican reich vs republican lite.
Fortunately there's other parties
As it stands, third-party will never win in the US.
Fortunately we can change the election system to be democratic. Maine did it years ago, for example
Good luck with that on a federal level. Neither the Democrats nor Republicans will risk losing an inch of power.
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Careful, you will call the centrist fairies to tell you how you are the problem.
Fairies? Hope that’s not a dog whistle for queers because you’re speaking to one.
But yeah, the ~~centrists~~ fascists haven’t learned a goddamn thing as usual.
Trippin and smokin is all that they do
I mean same?
Fairies wear boots you gotta believe me
I saw it I saw it. I dont tell ya no lies
No its not but I tire of having to edit my thought because a very small 1% percent of the population doesn't like what I say. That includes what you describe as queers and also the real problem. The people who have too much money.
A centrist fairy is a person on the left or the right that comes along and smears someone who see both sides as being the same thing. The don't sprinkle dust. They sling shit. The differences only being by degree where one side cancels and the other side threatens. Both sides seek to silence anyone who isn't them. Both sides fail to fix the countries problems because at the top, both sides are rich over entitled scum.
Also you could substitute gremlin or wraith for fairy but in the stories fairies were by far the worse.
To be fair, fairies were used as a slur against queers.
You got a problem with us? Fuck off. If not, sorry I misread your comment.
To be fair many words are used as slurs against many people. It was not used in this way this time. Fucking off as least as far as you are concerned.