Reminds me of why torture as a means of information gathering is ridiculous.

I will absolutely tell you what I think you want to hear when you start stabbing me, whether its the truth or I ever knew it at all.

But I also hate you for torturing me, so If I do happen to know the thing then I also know enough about the thing to alter the answer to something false but plausible for a moment of relief while you act on it, because we all know if you're torturing me, you have no intention of letting me out alive.

This is why the lets be pals/wine and dine approach is more effective.

The only way this question makes sense is if you're one of millions of sociopathic Americans (not entirely most of their fault, they were encouraged to be so through for profit media and simply fell for the ego stroking lies of "you're better than them, so enjoy the suffering they obviously deserve for some reason") that don't consider homeless Americans to be human at all, want them out of their eyeline, and literally despise suffering people far worse off than them for...🤮... "lowering their property values."

Literally the same market capitalist deluded useful idiots that want public schools defunded into further ruin because they themselves don't personally currently have a child that attends public school.

The people hurting almost everyone with their basically infinite resources, private shareholder capitalist sociopaths, managed to convince it seems like most Americans that the reason the economy works against them despite perpetual record profits for said private shareholders are those people down the street living in an old tent in the park starving and dying of exposure to the elements.

Exactly.

As just one example, had we been railing against the Federalist Society for what it always was since it was established around the Reagan Revolution, a judicial extremist group and ideological servant to wealthy business interests for decades designed to bend our judicial branch to their profit driven desires, it would have gotten increasingly difficult to get them appointed to the SCOTUS, and even lesser appointments under such public pressure, back when public pressure was still heeded to some degree.

Instead, that was considered to be engaging in unseemly class war, harumph I say! They're simply a society made up of wealthy legacy slot kids that happens to have a judicial philosophy of make the rich richer and less accountable, and make the poor poorer and more desperate. Now, having decades waging class war basically unopposed, Wall Street now owns our Judicial branch in practice, to play with like any random mega yacht. It is their asset, we can only suffer it.

Whenever the peasants get even the tiniest bit of leverage, the owners predictably, cynically, and immediately bust out the "there is no class war! It would be unseemly to engage in a class war! Don't start a class war!" lies through their propaganda pulpits.

Sadly, it works, despite the fact that the market capitalists never stop warring against those with less to get ever moooaaaar to feed their insatiable greed disease. Reagan/Thatcher actually convinced millions of poor, deluded idiots that deregulation and tax breaks for the rich would help them, some of whom still belligerently defend supply side market capitalism against their own interests before carrying their brittle, old, exploited bones outside every day expecting golden showers of prosperity to start raining down on them as the owners promised... any decade now... And holy shit why is it so hot out here?

The market capitalist owner class has been warring against you and any nation states that still prioritizes the wellbeing of their people for longer than anyone has been alive, whether you would fight back or say "thank you lord may I have another!"

Our elected leaders betray us for money like breathing, our wealth class uses their power to pillage our commons and coerce ever more exploitative labor using the government that was supposed to protect us from their power as their personal cudgel, and we basically hate one another due to the owner's media propaganda machine intentionally keeping us divided and misinformed so we can never unite to challenge them.

What, you want we should rally around pride in our nation's supposedly admirable history? The genocide parts, the slavery parts, non-crony capitalist foreign nation destabilization parts, the state sanctioned union busting parts, or the eugenics parts?

How about something from the last week of history, like making it legal to make it illegal for our fellow citizens to exist in public places without a home they can't afford? Is that what we should take pride in? Demonstrating cruelty to the most destitute members of our society that we have all collectively already failed the most to feel superior and get them out of our sight?

Fuck this place. Yes there are other horrible nation states that thrive on inhumanity, but that in no way absolves us of ours, especially with all the inhumanity in the form of poison pill "free market advocacy" that our diplomats, military, and multinationals pressure other nation states to become to make them as greedy and sociopathic a society as possible and make their markets accessible for our egotistical capitalists to grow their dragon hoards with as the numbers of homeless Americans continues to explode.

It should be extremely limited. 3-5 years after copyright it should expire.

Completely fair.

My point is while the decision might please the poor trailer park misogynists and religious zealots, and the fight between women and them is stoked by for profit media to keep the peasants divided, the court made that decision to further the long term economic interests of the owners concerned with their nepo babies not having enough cattle to exploit.

It was done in the interest of greed for our owners. Women being angry at laughing trailer park misogynists and religious zealots might be cathartic, but people like Warren Buffett are the ones it was done for.

These are dark times, for our species and the living world that spawned us.

This is funny, but It's not about women's bodies. It's about creating desperation among those they exploit.

Its about keeping the poor the pliant, submissive playthings and capital batteries of the owners.

In addition to making women desperate with children they can't afford, the unwanted child will almost never have any option but to labor for the owner class. The more desperate the peasants are, the less they'll accept for their exploited labor.

The Federalist Society that now owns our Judicial branch is nothing less than an arm of our owner class.

The owners also love to use their media machine to turn every conceivable demographic against one another so we never look up at our common enemy. Women and men should be angry at just about everything the SCOTUS is doing, both for themselves and their children.

The women on the court, and the affluent women this court represents the interests of don't consider peasant women that have to suffer these rulings to be human at all. Socioeconomic status at the true owner level transcends all other conflicts, because it either creates or greatly exacerbates all of them. Just ask Clarence Thomas.

They can propagandize the races/sexes/religious followings to beat eachother to death with their media machines, but whether we get our shit together and fight the owners, or keep taking the bait and beating on one another as they laugh, the conflict is the tiny class of owner capitalists vs. Everyone else.

"Clean" coal, corn based ethanol, hydrogen vehicles, plant a tree offsets, planet scale carbon filters, on and on...

If the owners want me to believe technology can solve the climate problem that is caused by their greed so their greed can continue destroying civilization socially unabated, they need to stop selling climate action policy snake oil to world governments for a quick buck.

And also maybe stop forcing workers who can work at a computer at home to drive into work to maintain the capital value of your commercial real estate as you bark orders from the luxury resort tour that is your life.

Until then, we know not living lives powered by burning ridiculous quantities of dead flora/fauna juice wouldn't further destabilize our only, increasingly uncomfortably hot habitat. We also know that simply stopping won't reverse the damage already done on a time scale humans can perceive.

We are literally turning the habitat of any future humans into 🔥Hell🔥. And if we couldn't make it work here, on easy mode, with enough pre-existing water/air/waste recycling to support millions to billions sustainably, we certainly aren't going to thrive on worlds where a single mistake means oops, everybody dead instantly try again. Im glad of that honestly, as the idea of growing/metastasizing into space and exploiting new world's resources almost makes dollar signs pop out of billionaire's eye sockets, and if thats the core reason they're so eager for us to spread out there, may we die on the vine.

"But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got.

Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers.

Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all.

And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.”

―George Carlin, 20 years ago

Loved when the OGs for this made a cameo on the show.