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[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 60 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

That article is aggravating.

The warnings didn’t work. “It was striking was that there just wasn’t recognition of the real life and death stakes,” said the official, who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “Everyone respected that there was grief and pain. But how do you ignore being told countless times, ‘Here is a direct quote of Trump saying he wants Gaza leveled’?”

Real life and death stakes? People were fucking dying and you're saying THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LIFE AND DEATH STAKES?!! Of course they knew Trump was outwardly pro-Israel but that didn't mean they were too stupid to understand that Biden and Harris were just as much, they just had slightly better rhetoric, which doesn't matter at all to people's current material conditions.

I don't know how I can talk to my Dem organizer friends if they think and talk like this. It's hopeless if this is their thoughts and strategy. And they don't seem to have learned anything, either. The article was so biased, too. It dedicated a lot more words and space to the unrepentant Dem campaign staff over the Palestinian-Americans, their US voting movements, and their reasons.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 33 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I honestly wonder how these people would react if you told them that the reason you couldn't vote for Kamala was because she's "too much like Trump."

Because the flip side of Trump doing the same thing as Kamala but worse is that Kamala was offering to do the same thing as Trump but better.

Jesus fucking christ how do they not understand this.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I honestly wonder how these people would react if you told them that the reason you couldn't vote for Kamala was because she's "too much like Trump."

Pretty obvious how they'd react. They'd say Kamala is the lesser evil.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago

I propose preemptively refuting this by explaining how they're at least on the same order of magnitude of evil, but the libs on both sides of course have party mentality where their candidate can do no wrong

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