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[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 102 points 3 days ago

Turns out asking dems to have principles works better than texting STOP.

[–] red_stapler@hexbear.net 79 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Any time I catch a lib saying anything about undecided costing them the election, I point out “Kamala basically turned to the camera and said ‘Fuck you if you care about Gaza, we’ll win without you.’

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 71 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Didn't she literally say this to the teamsters about their potential endorsement?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 48 points 3 days ago

Yes. Yes she did jokermala

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago

Fuck you I won't do what you tell me

Fuck you I won't do ehat you tell me

FUCK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!

UGH!

-Kamala Harris

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago

But Biden and Harris, while acknowledging the concerns about the soaring death toll in Gaza, were unwilling to upend decades of U.S. policy.

Sure, the the tragedy is immense and will echo through history, but have you considered the fact that ending it would be breaking precedent?

[–] JDPONDON@hexbear.net 86 points 3 days ago (3 children)

surely this will cause these people to abandon the democratic party and begin the path to radicalization right guys clueless

doomerism
before i get accused of being a doomer: why come out with this now, it clearly didnt actually bother you bad enough to reveal it during the campaign. so sorry bombala "most lethal military in the world" harriSS was a dogshit candidate and so now you have to deal with a dang cheeto in the white house. notice how the organizer blames "top harris campaign leaders", no fault assigned to kid killer kamala ofc.

[–] goferking0 51 points 3 days ago

They still can't comprehend it was a shit campaign 🙃😟😭

[–] blunder@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

"bombala" is really funny nice one

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 78 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What part of "she ran a flawless campaign" don't you understand?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago

Queen Latifah endorsed her! And she never endorses anyone!!

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 73 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I had a convo one of their phone bank people, their response was literally IDPOL. The lady talking to me said she was Jewish. She didn't have an answer to my case against Israel, but said that having a woman in the white house would basically bring in some sort of wisdom and there would be a "better chance" at a resolution to Gaza.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 73 points 3 days ago (2 children)

having a woman in the white house would basically bring in some sort of wisdom and there would be a "better chance" at a resolution to Gaza.

Gender essentialism but woke

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pay no attention to Margaret Thatcher, Queen Elizabeth, or any of Israel's female prime ministers.

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Angela Merkel also repeatedly referred to the security of Israel as Germany's historical duty and "reason of state" angular-merkel

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

Ah yes, the Staatsräson. Angela Merkel's macchiavellianism is a very under-discussed topic, people still don't get how deeply ruthless she is because she's so successful at maintaining the facade of being the harmless elderly lady next door who bakes apple crumble.

Exactly. The lady ended up thanking me for the conversation in the end, though I deeply challenged her beliefs, so that was a good take away.

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 61 points 3 days ago (1 children)

well, you can't say it didn't work out for the democratic party in the end: the left is out of power

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

We did it, Joe!

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 36 points 3 days ago

Dems and their vocal supporters are just selfish and pathetic assholes. First they thought they would win without the people wanting the genocide to stop. Then they said Trump would be worse because genocide 2.0. Then they lost and start dabbing on Palestine supporters for what was done to Palestinians under Trump as though there hadn't been a genocide under Democrats. I'm sorry but anyone that has any expectations of the Dems, both candidates and supporters is a total clown ass in my book.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 42 points 3 days ago

lol. Lmao, even.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago

Political genius at work

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago

Thats what 1.5 billion gets you huh

[–] Juice@midwest.social 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I read this yesterday and while I believe it, what is his source? it wasn't immediately apparent what he was quoting

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago

Well that's because they decided to focus on the 50% of the population that don't vote, right? Would be crazy to ignore your constituents for the sake of some person who is pretty well set on voting republican, when there's so many people who just plain don't vote

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 20 points 3 days ago

The Democrats will lose the voters permanently and not just in 2024.

[–] Clippy@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 60 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

That article is aggravating.

The warnings didn’t work. “It was striking was that there just wasn’t recognition of the real life and death stakes,” said the official, who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “Everyone respected that there was grief and pain. But how do you ignore being told countless times, ‘Here is a direct quote of Trump saying he wants Gaza leveled’?”

Real life and death stakes? People were fucking dying and you're saying THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LIFE AND DEATH STAKES?!! Of course they knew Trump was outwardly pro-Israel but that didn't mean they were too stupid to understand that Biden and Harris were just as much, they just had slightly better rhetoric, which doesn't matter at all to people's current material conditions.

I don't know how I can talk to my Dem organizer friends if they think and talk like this. It's hopeless if this is their thoughts and strategy. And they don't seem to have learned anything, either. The article was so biased, too. It dedicated a lot more words and space to the unrepentant Dem campaign staff over the Palestinian-Americans, their US voting movements, and their reasons.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I honestly wonder how these people would react if you told them that the reason you couldn't vote for Kamala was because she's "too much like Trump."

Because the flip side of Trump doing the same thing as Kamala but worse is that Kamala was offering to do the same thing as Trump but better.

Jesus fucking christ how do they not understand this.

[–] Taster_Of_Treats@hexbear.net 42 points 3 days ago

My vote for PSL was intended to punish the DNC for supporting genocide, with the hope that Gaza would get a short or medium term ceasefire. My line in the sand is: you cannot support a genocide and get my vote to remain in office.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I honestly wonder how these people would react if you told them that the reason you couldn't vote for Kamala was because she's "too much like Trump."

Pretty obvious how they'd react. They'd say Kamala is the lesser evil.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

I propose preemptively refuting this by explaining how they're at least on the same order of magnitude of evil, but the libs on both sides of course have party mentality where their candidate can do no wrong

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

But how do you ignore being told countless times, ‘Here is a direct quote of Trump saying he wants Gaza leveled’?”

They didn't ignore you, you ignored them pointing out that you were at that very moment doing the leveling.

They'll never learn, they'll never change because they never actually cared.

These jerks beat the drum about RussiaGate and then just act clueless while Israel rat fucks them.