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What's with all the hatred that Firefox has been getting lately? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 week ago by Makan@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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Look at this chud video here.

It's just complaining about DEI, but why now? Apparently, Firefox has a "license" to all your data now. How much is that true? Is he just cherry-picking here, in this case? Librewolf or whatever it's called might be a better option. There's also Zen browser.

I got this in my YouTube feed and didn't know it was more anti-DEI slop and now I'm not sure what to believe. Wish they didn't have to make it so political like they accuse others of doing. Ah well. But what is this I hear about Firefox having a "license" to all your data?

I guess that's like a lot of browsers, tbh, but I suppose Firefox has higher standards, or did...

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[–] yet_another_commie@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Do we even need web anymore? Prolewiki and grad will work on Netscape Navigator. Web search is shit anyway, and most banks are already going app-only. For youtube I use privacy apps

[–] FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The current "web" is utter trash. It's so complex that compiling any browser that supports at least most web standards from source takes a lot more time and memory than compiling the entire Linux Kernel or even the mesa userspace drivers. The only way to "fix" the web is to throw it in the dumpster and start over. A web browser should only be a document viewer that can load and display interactive documents from a remote location and nothing more.

Web search is shit anyway

Yeah. It's getting less and less usable even with FOSS frontends. I'm working on my own web search off and on. I'm so sick of wrangling with search engines just to get useful results for my query.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s so complex that compiling any browser that supports at least most web standards from source takes a lot more time and memory than compiling the entire Linux Kernel or even the mesa userspace drivers

i made the mistake of clean building ungoogled chromium once
it took over 5 hours on my pretty beefy machine lol

[–] FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Firefox isn't much better in that regard. Bootstrapping alone takes many minutes, which is no surprise since their build system is not only huge but also written in Python of all things. Even if you use gcc instead of clang to compile the corporate spaghetti, the tons of rust in the codebase will make up for all that time gained lol. On my 2014 Xeon workstation where a generic Linux Kernel takes less than an hour, FF takes 6+ hours to build.

[–] yet_another_commie@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There's an flatpak app called FreeTube works like a charm

[–] FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 days ago

I'm aware of FreeTube but unforutnately it's yet another Electron App, which is just Chromium w/ NodeJS. I host my own personal Invidious instance for YouTube.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 days ago

A web? Like, "do we even need web anymore" in what way? As in, Google searches or the whole thing?🤣