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submitted 1 year ago by elouboub@kbin.social to c/men@kbin.social

You will be no better than the people you'll fight against. I've seen it happen on every pro-men subreddit, and if this place isn't aggressively moderated to dispel hopelessness, negativity, and prejudice, it'll just turn into hate.

Incel, mens-rights activist, red-pill, black-pill, MGTOW, etc. don't let the haters join otherwise this community will end up just like the aforementioned.

Egalitarian from a male perspective is what we should be, not pro-male (I say male because of sex and gender).

Be excellent to each other.

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[-] Anamana@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean yeah, not much I can say to that. Almost every ideology poses some sort of danger/benefit. But what can we make of it? Take the 'good' things and discard the 'bad' things. That's why I don't see why we should not take out the good things coming with feminism.

Also no society ever only entailed one single ideology. It's always been a mix of different influences. At least if we are walking about it on a bigger level.

As it stands, right now feminism is applied in a way that either ignores or silences men. and thus, it is anti-male.

That's not a fact, but an interpretation. So yeah, I disagree. I feel empowered by feminism as a man to be who I wanna be. E.g. to be emotional, caring without the fear being called a 'pussy'.

[-] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's so funny how the things you say are "facts" and the things others say (if you disagree with it, that is) are "interpretations", despite you not having a source for a damn thing.

[-] a-man-from-earth@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

As it stands, right now feminism is applied in a way that either ignores or silences men. and thus, it is anti-male.

That’s not a fact, but an interpretation.

Objection! Many men have the lived experience of our issues not being taken seriously, but rather them being dismissed. Men are often silenced, because "what about the women? Don't they have it worse?" And the dismissive "patriarchy hurts men too."

[-] Anamana@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're just phrasing it differently. Where is your proof if you argue for it to be a scientific fact? Anecdotal 'evidence' ≠ scientic fact.

Men are often silenced, because "what about the women? Don't they have it worse?" And the dismissive "patriarchy hurts men too."

Every critique has its place. Whataboutism never helps.

And yeah it's true, patriarchy hurts men as well. I experienced enough of that in my life.

[-] a-man-from-earth@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Where is your proof if you argue for it to be a scientific fact?

For example, feminist Mary P. Koss is instrumental in the sexual assault statistics published by the CDC. She redefines rape as something that cannot be done by women to men, thus burying the evidence that rape is not a gendered crime. See https://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/

That is a systemic silencing of male issues.

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