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Why did Beehive decide to defederate?
Since lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works didn't have any restrictions on making accounts they were getting a lot of trolls coming from those 2 instances so they defederated from them until the moderation tools become more advanced.
Given that kbin (or at least kbin.social) generally doesn't have restrictions on making accounts either I would assume we're next, eventually.
This is what all us kbinauts were thinking and a few of us asked beehaw and their response was literally "who are you? we don't even think about you" lol. so I think we're probably fine.
@Otome-chan @onceuponaban @can @sbv @Xathonn i am glad they think they're important enough to feel superior when they make such a reply. shitty neighboors attract shitty neighboors.
welcome to fedi btw. you'll fit right in just fine umu
Even if they do defederate us that's basically just the trash taking itself out.
I'm sure we'd live somehow
If it comes to that... It is what it is!
I don't need big instances directly piped into my vein to have a good time on the internet.
They only have 4 admins and don't allow users to create communities. It's highly curated, but also can't handle the influx of users from other instances until they have better mod tools, or change their position.
The solution was to ask for more volunteer mods, not the nuclear option.
Its surpassing how much they want to control what other people see.
Which they have been doing. They added a bunch of mods to local communities. But it just wasn't enough, according to them.
Well that's what they've said from the beginning. They wanted a more curated and friendly instance, rather than having the old reddit culture.
100% agree, and their need for control is a huge red flag. I don't really want them federated tbh. Already they are trying to use their control over several large communities to influence other instances policies.
Sounds like they just need to add a few temp mods.
From my understanding, with the slew of new users on lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works, moderating comments and posts that were against Beehaw community rules (largely because of bigotry and harassment) became more or less impossible. While there has been an overall explosion in new accounts across the fediverse, almost all of their time was moderating users from those two instances. They were not able to find a compromise using the current mod tools, so went with the nuclear option while they figure out new solutions.
Here's the truth. They want a safe space. If you question the admins they will ban you. You must be militantly polite or your gone
They explicitly state that they're making a safe space in their TOS thing, no?
Safe space = dissent disallowed.
Yes? That's explicitly the purpose. I get it's shitty but it's pretty stupid to go to a place where they outright tell you they're going to censor you and then get mad that they do it
Yeah so I don't think we're disagreeing here then. I made the claim that they're very censor-heavy and toxic and you seem to confirm that yourself. My argument was never about specifically going over there.
@Sexypink @sbv so basically they're reddit users.
The Great Fediverse Redditour of 2023 is already picking up to be far more interesting than the Poa.st and Bae.st hacks.
@Owl @Sexypink @sbv they got hacked? why would anyone care?
You let dogs in, the fleas follow. That's why.
@Owl @Sexypink @sbv they let white girls use their server?
What does "militantly polite" mean?
Big words for someone from exploding heads.
That's how it is on most internet forums tbh