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[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Why did Beehive decide to defederate?

[–] Xathonn@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Since lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works didn't have any restrictions on making accounts they were getting a lot of trolls coming from those 2 instances so they defederated from them until the moderation tools become more advanced.

[–] onceuponaban@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Given that kbin (or at least kbin.social) generally doesn't have restrictions on making accounts either I would assume we're next, eventually.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is what all us kbinauts were thinking and a few of us asked beehaw and their response was literally "who are you? we don't even think about you" lol. so I think we're probably fine.

[–] jeff@federated.fun 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

@Otome-chan @onceuponaban @can @sbv @Xathonn i am glad they think they're important enough to feel superior when they make such a reply. shitty neighboors attract shitty neighboors.

welcome to fedi btw. you'll fit right in just fine umu

[–] RyanHakurei@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Even if they do defederate us that's basically just the trash taking itself out.

[–] Denali@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] albinanigans@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

If it comes to that... It is what it is!

I don't need big instances directly piped into my vein to have a good time on the internet.

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[–] Timboflex@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They only have 4 admins and don't allow users to create communities. It's highly curated, but also can't handle the influx of users from other instances until they have better mod tools, or change their position.

[–] darcy@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The solution was to ask for more volunteer mods, not the nuclear option.

Its surpassing how much they want to control what other people see.

Which they have been doing. They added a bunch of mods to local communities. But it just wasn't enough, according to them.

Its surpassing [sic] how much they want to control what other people see.

Well that's what they've said from the beginning. They wanted a more curated and friendly instance, rather than having the old reddit culture.

[–] Timboflex@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago

100% agree, and their need for control is a huge red flag. I don't really want them federated tbh. Already they are trying to use their control over several large communities to influence other instances policies.

[–] finder585@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Sounds like they just need to add a few temp mods.

[–] Bojimbo@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

From my understanding, with the slew of new users on lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works, moderating comments and posts that were against Beehaw community rules (largely because of bigotry and harassment) became more or less impossible. While there has been an overall explosion in new accounts across the fediverse, almost all of their time was moderating users from those two instances. They were not able to find a compromise using the current mod tools, so went with the nuclear option while they figure out new solutions.

[–] Sexypink@exploding-heads.com 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Here's the truth. They want a safe space. If you question the admins they will ban you. You must be militantly polite or your gone

[–] Denali@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They explicitly state that they're making a safe space in their TOS thing, no?

[–] RyanHakurei@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Safe space = dissent disallowed.

[–] Denali@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes? That's explicitly the purpose. I get it's shitty but it's pretty stupid to go to a place where they outright tell you they're going to censor you and then get mad that they do it

[–] RyanHakurei@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah so I don't think we're disagreeing here then. I made the claim that they're very censor-heavy and toxic and you seem to confirm that yourself. My argument was never about specifically going over there.

[–] jeff@federated.fun 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Owl@nicecrew.digital 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Great Fediverse Redditour of 2023 is already picking up to be far more interesting than the Poa.st and Bae.st hacks.

[–] jeff@federated.fun -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@Owl @Sexypink @sbv they got hacked? why would anyone care?

[–] Owl@nicecrew.digital -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You let dogs in, the fleas follow. That's why.

[–] jeff@federated.fun -1 points 2 years ago

@Owl @Sexypink @sbv they let white girls use their server?

[–] Pelicanen@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (10 children)

What does "militantly polite" mean?

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[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Big words for someone from exploding heads.

[–] spark431@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

That's how it is on most internet forums tbh