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[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you really can't get it into your head that the jews lived there for thousands of years and still lived there at the beginning of this century you're so antisemitic

I, nor Palestinians have any problems with Jewish people living in Palestine. You continue to conflate Jewish people in general with Zionists. The problem is with the Settler Colonialism, the cornerstone of Zionism. Read the book by Nur Masalha, which details the history of Palestine in the past 4000 years.

they are not colonisers

You can't be fucking serious. Zionism was explicitly started as a settler Colonialist project. It began with settlements that displaced Palestinians, it has never stopped settling and displacing Palestinians, neither within Israel prior to 1967 or the West Bank after 1967. Which you would have picked up if you engaged with the damn sources instead of acting confidently incorrect because you're terrified that you may be wrong.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

come now you can't fool me

it's obvious that anyone against your palestinian cause immediately becomes a zionist and genocider

including surely all the jews living in palestine in the early 20th century and any jew or other human even vaguely supporting them including myself

how can a settler colonialist project be started by natives

the problem is you're antisemitic and pro the genicidal philospphy that the arabs have had for over 100 years

it's only now that the attacks on israel have made the situation so bad that peace is even considered

[–] Gensidersposdie@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago

Israel killed 400 people in gaza just yesterday you brainwashed piece of shit

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Read the books and watch the videos if you're so interested. I'm done talking with you. You ignore every source provided. You are either a troll or so willfully ignorant that you can't bring yourself to take a serious look at the sources that contradict your personal world view.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

i'm confident the neither of us trust each-others sources

the only way forward to peace is to agree on a shared reality of the region's history and work from there

i hope you can deprogram your fundamentalist left-wing fantasies soon

best of luck

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're one source is Benny Morris, which I've already read and cross referenced with numerous other historians. You haven't read a single book I mentioned. Don't trust, verify. If you're so confident, go ahead and try to prove yourself wrong. It's all readily available, you can find all the books mentioned on Anna's Archive for free, but you won't.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

you're very keen on sources i notice, i guess it lends itself to a air of arcane legitimacy

but sources don't matter to the obvious paradox i've been highlighting that you've studiously been ignoring

i think the jews are native to the land of palestine whereas you think they are zionist colonial genocidal invaders

by the way when egypt jordan et al invaded were they being arabic colonial empirical invaders or just good buddies to their arab chums?

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Go read Expulsion of the Palestinians The Concept of "Transfer" in Zionist Political Thought 1882-1948 by Nur Masalha Chapter 1

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

so you agree that jews are indigenous to palestine

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

when you've trained to believe something for so long and it starts to fracture it must be a little unsettling

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nice projection. Read it or stop talking to me

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

I wasn't so much talking to you as talking through you

I mean you've already admitted it's a civil war and not colonial

By the way did you copy and paste the info dumps from previous discussions or are they prepared for you

[–] Gensidersposdie@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Modern israel have been founded by renegate jews who bought their right to bail to the nazis and left their fellow jews to die like cowards

No body care the italians expelled jewish people 2000 years ago. They obviously were not the same people

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

jews have been indigenous to the land now known as palestine for maybe 4000 years