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[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

MLS is cool because ANY messenger can implement it and talk to another messenger. If implemented, Signal users could have an EE2E conversation with WhatsApp, or Matrix users could have EE2E conversations with RCS users.

The original creator of MLS has a messenger called Wire.

MLS is designed to support that use case, but the spec to actually intercommunicate between services is still being developed by the MIMI group. MIMI is the logical but entirely optional extension of MLS.

I don't think carriers will want random chat apps to send messages for free to their infrastructure for spam prevention alone. Companies like Element and Wire are probably going all in on this, but Signal doesn't even want you to use clients they didn't compile, let alone federate between services.

I believe WhatsApp has chosen to license its API in a documented fashion rather than implement a cross platform messaging protocol after they were forced to open up by the DMA. That said, there are a bunch of Facebook emails in the MIMI protocol discussions, so at least one of their messengers may still end up implementing MIMI when it's finally finished.

It would be so awesome to have on app to message any platform without any fanfare.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That would overall be bad for privacy since you will have major weak links. Better to just move everybody to Signal.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any messager that isn't private like WhatsApp.

Also the cryptography is dubious at best since you are focusing on compatibility over privacy or even security.

If you want something decentralized look into Simplex Chat.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

What is it about the MLS encryption that is dubious?