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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is an update to the standard, right? No actual software support, so we still don’t have it. Is that correct?

[–] neme@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, that is correct

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I already do but it's nice to have an easy, default way to talk to everyone

[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Except for those on degoogled android.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I use GraphineOS, im pretty sure I wont get this

[–] cyphear@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I recently flashed grapheneos because I didn't like the way Google does things. But, my work requires me to be able to send messages to iPhone users. Ever since, I've been having issues receiving their texts. I can send them individually; but for the group chats, I'm not getting any of them. I really hate the idea of going back to a stock ROM, but I needs to get paid. Does eos support the new changes?

Honestly I would try to convince them to use Signal

[–] airglow@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Molly is a Signal client fork that uses UnifiedPush instead of Google's push notification service.

[–] bonus_crab@lemmy.world -2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I should hope signal adds sms support back with this.

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Logically that makes sense, as they removed SMS support due to some people not realising that using SMS was not secure/encrypted.

[–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Why would it make sense? Currently on Android, RCS isn't a system level thing like SMS is. So Signal won't easily be able to pull it in. Unless they implement their own implementation of RCS and the Universal Profile.

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 2 points 14 hours ago

Didn't say it would be easy, just that it would make sense if they wanted to add it back in if it supported encryption

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not gonna believe any of it. It's probably not just backdored, it probably has its central server at the FBI. Google/Apple/Microsoft have zero respect for your privacy.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Username does not check out

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, gimmy Linux instead!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 points 16 hours ago

It is Linux, but with a bunch of non-free software on top of it.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

MLS is cool because ANY messenger can implement it and talk to another messenger. If implemented, Signal users could have an EE2E conversation with WhatsApp, or Matrix users could have EE2E conversations with RCS users.

The original creator of MLS has a messenger called Wire.

MLS is designed to support that use case, but the spec to actually intercommunicate between services is still being developed by the MIMI group. MIMI is the logical but entirely optional extension of MLS.

I don't think carriers will want random chat apps to send messages for free to their infrastructure for spam prevention alone. Companies like Element and Wire are probably going all in on this, but Signal doesn't even want you to use clients they didn't compile, let alone federate between services.

I believe WhatsApp has chosen to license its API in a documented fashion rather than implement a cross platform messaging protocol after they were forced to open up by the DMA. That said, there are a bunch of Facebook emails in the MIMI protocol discussions, so at least one of their messengers may still end up implementing MIMI when it's finally finished.

It would be so awesome to have on app to message any platform without any fanfare.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That would overall be bad for privacy since you will have major weak links. Better to just move everybody to Signal.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any messager that isn't private like WhatsApp.

Also the cryptography is dubious at best since you are focusing on compatibility over privacy or even security.

If you want something decentralized look into Simplex Chat.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

What is it about the MLS encryption that is dubious?

Really wish they'd push the update to all Android OS's sooner than later