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Don't get me wrong, I really hope for this to be a watershed moment for ousting Erdogan. We are all on the same side here.
My hope is not dead yet - it's more likely for Turkey to go back to democracy in the next years than it is e.g. for Hungary - or for the divided states of america, for that matter.
Hungary is currently making a serious effort. If nothing changes, Orbán loses the next election and either has to flee the country or go to jail in 2026.
I really hope that this happens, but I haven't seen any news indicating this. Got a few good sources?
Read telex.hu/english to catch up. Biggest independent news site in Hungary, financed by readers (that's what the popup is about, it's not a paywall).
For example this article.
Orbán has been in the minority for months now, not just in polls but actual crowd turnout as well.
Wow. Thank you for the link. Fingers crossed for Hungary and Europe!
There is the problem of "elections", however: dictators have this .. habit .. of having "elections" which produce the officially-desired results..
I remember that election in the Phillipines, when a Marcos got elected..
NO Western "journalism" reported on it, from what I could see, but after the variability of the 1st few polls, reporting in, suddenly ALL the polling-stations were reporting 2/3rds for Marcos, always..
NO population votes that way.
I pray Hungary can get clear of him, XOR I pray that the EU can evict Hungary, as Orban's a Putin-ally within the EU, & that's suicidal, now.
PS: thank you for linking to a good information-source for Hungary, for us..
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Since it's an EU member, they can't blatantly cheat at the elections, or at least they haven't attempted to. There were borderline issues, like people mass transfering into swing districts, an empty lot with no buildings near the Ukraine border having 200 people registered there, but no ballot stuffing or anything. You can just go and be an observer, the opposition is always recruiting. The system gets a lot of its current legitimacy from legit-ish elections.
But on the other hand, the EU can't reasonably kick Hungary out, no such clause in the treaties, and if you start making shit up, everything else that was agreed on through hard work also gets called into question. The most reasonable path forward to exclude Hungary is literally to form an EU 2.0, which the French have been thinking about loudly for a while.
BTW the biggest engine factory of VW and Europe is in Hungary. Kicking it out or even restoring the customs borders would have you run up agaisnt the German car lobby.