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[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 109 points 2 days ago (2 children)

From what I hear.....elon, thief and their cronies are specifically wrecking government to push a corporate takeover...jeeze. it's like robocop.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And/or destabilizing the country's economy and political power worldwide so our enemies like Russia can do whatever they want without the US interfering. The complete destruction of US soft power via things like USAID and the blatant attempts to destroy any collaboration with our allies seems to point more in that direction.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Different groups, different motivations, but they're headed in the same direction more or less so they're working together. Trump is working to install himself as a dictator under orders from Putin. He wants to be for the US what Lukashenko is for Belarus. Ultimately he'll be Putin's puppet but he'll largely have free reign within the US which is the only thing he cares about. He's destroying all the US soft power and doing everything he can to turn all the US allies against it. Domestically he's painting targets on the backs of as many minorities as he can in order to keep the useful idiots that elected him distracted.

Musk meanwhile is working to establish an oligarchy and to steal or destroy as much of the US government as he can manage. Ultimately his goals are fairly transparent as he's motivated entirely by naked greed. Since his efforts hurt US foreign relations as much as the domestic situation he's a useful tool to Trump in his efforts to neuter the US for Putin.

Then you've got the Christian nationalists in the GOP that don't really care about what's going on as long as they're allowed to trample all over the first amendment and declare Christianity as the official US religion with all the associated bigotry and discrimination. Since that plays to Trump's efforts to distract his supporters he's perfectly fine with it, but likely keeping a close eye on that group lest any of them think about usurping his crown, particularly when he still hasn't really gotten to go full dictator yet.

[–] krebssteven@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would disagree on your Musk-analysis. He and the other techbros are not after the money but after the power and influence that being in these positions nets them. The monetary gain is a side-effect. The goal is to enforce their unrealistic ideas about how to reshape society. Look up ‘Longtermism’ and the ridiculous ideas of one Curtis Yarvin. Remember MAGAts are fond of yammering about the World Economic Forum and the Gates, Soros etc? How these are supposedly trying to reshape society into some big brother-esque dystopia?

That is what the tech-oligarchs are facilitating.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well it's kind of both. While I agree that is a goal it's ultimately about hoarding wealth to them. Power is wealth and wealth is power. The only reason they care about the peasants is because control over them ensures they can continue to harvest wealth and that nobody can become wealthier. Their goal isn't any specific amount of wealth but rather they treat it as a game they're competing in. They don't care if they have a million dollars or a hundred trillion as long as nobody else has more.

Everything they do is in service to acquiring more wealth for themselves and denying wealth to others including the accumulation of power. They'll spend money to acquire power but only if that power then allows for the accumulation of more money. That's their current play with the US government. They're destroying the US in order to carve it up and add it to their personal hoard of wealth.

[–] krebssteven@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

If it was only that easy. The quasi-religious convictions that Musk specifically holds in regards to Longtermism go ideologically deeper than just lust for power. Why do you think he still propagates his unrealistic ideas about spearheading a mars colonization?

Greed everybody can understand and reckon with. These ridiculous ideas make people do unintelligible things.

[–] silicon@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Worse than RoboCop, we don't have a cool robot cop shooting dicks off to show for it