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thank you for such a detailed reply! im also not even sure what Bernie is attempting to do right now. Build up to a presidential campaign as an independent? Surely he understands that the dems arent going to let him anywhere near the nomination. and if he's not doing it for his presidency, what type of movement is he trying build?
It is a very odd situation. Maybe he is trying to build broad support for his message to prove to the Democrat establishment that this message works, and they should be adopting it. I know some democratic senators have already tried adopting his working-class message, regardless of how forced it sounds coming out of their mouths. There is a current of moderate Democrats who really hate this idea, and are actively resisting it within the part apparatus. I've presumed, since this whole crisis started, that this crisis could lead to a fracturing of the Democratic Party. I don't know if that leads to a 3rd party, or if that means the moderate Democrats just become moderate Republicans. This contradiction is driving these developments, and who can say when or how it will end.
Burnie denied that he was building a new party, he said that "now isn't the time". It begs the question, though, "if not now, then when?". Maybe now is not the right time because he still believes he can win over the Democrats. The midterms are very likely where this message will be tested, along with the Democratic Party as a whole. Though, I think, a crushing defeat in the mid-terms would lead to the splitting of the Democratic Party, I'm not sure what things look like at the end of these 8 years. At that point, it might be too late to form another party at all. Maybe he has plans sooner. I really think if him, and the progressive caucus were to split off the Democrats and form their own party, it would absolutely gain traction. The timing of such a thing would be critical, however.