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I'm from Poland, and my family suffered to help end communism over there. In my view, late stage communism and late stage capitalism have similar pitfalls, i.e., centralised control over the means of production, a small entrenched elite, and massive failure of price discovery (goods under communism vs wages under capitalism)
Early stage capitalism and early stage capitalism before all the horrible shit comes out are a comparatively nice creature. That's why constant revolution is central to maintaining a decent life for the working classes. Any entrenched elite ends up being scum it doesn't matter if what the economic system is.
So your family are nazis? Or just work for the CIA? Based on your historical and political ignorance it sounds like both.
Communism is the goal of a classless society of equals. Socialism is the process of attaining communism. "Late stage communism" is like saying "The last leg of the podium." USSR was never communist. It was socialist and it was killed in it infancy.
The economic struggles of the USSR we not due to their policies they were due to hostility from capitalism and capitulation by revisionists who snaked their way into control.
Capitalism was horrific and inhuman from the very start. Read a fucking book. Go read about the process of enclosure in Britain.
It began with the rich expelling people from their ancestral homes where their families had lived since time immemorial. Those now homeless families starved until they got jobs working at factories where the wages barely covered food and shelter where multiple families were crammed in a shack and literally sleeping on top of eachother. A little while later it became a crime to be unemployed with the punishment being slavery. Capitalism started with genocide and the genocide machine only slowed down with the emergence of communism.
The only time a genocide was ever fought against was when the USSR defeated the nazis. The british, french, belgians, spanish, germans all engaged in genocide a few times each without batting an eye under capitalism. Only when the USSR showed up did capitalists concede that genocide was not acceptable.
The history of capitalism is 100% soaked in the blood of innocents. The only thing standing between capitalists and genocide is a strong and internationally active socialist nation. Yes people died under socialism but the majority were not violent deaths they died due to famine caused by natural factors and by petit bourgeoise fuck heads trying to destroy the revolution. The ones who were killed by violence were capitalists sympathisers and genocide lovers and they got what they deserved.
a lot of the people who did the counterrevolution in the soviet bloc were neither nazis or nor cia stooges. they were simply naive idiots who fell for western propaganda. they genuinely believed they'd get western social democracy, which in their understanding was everything communism was, but people were also richer and could travel to the west.
they had no understanding of
they were also incredibly treatlerized, equating blue jeans with freedom.
they'd grown up on radio free europe and believed it all.
Working for the CIA for free because you are an ignorant idiot is still working for the CIA.
ultimately, yes. the tragedy is they thought they were doing basically the opposite of what they ended up doing