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For real why is he white with blue eyes lmao white-pharaoh

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[โ€“] Muinteoir_Saoirse@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't care about DNA stuff, and to be honest there is a lot of weird race science wrapped up in people's obsession with DNA. Nor can DNA actually tell you how someone looked in real life; it is simply one of the many factors that go into someone's complexion and skin tone.

I gotta say though, there is something a bit uncomfortable about asserting that Egypt is being "secretive" with their cultural honoured and revered dead, when the history of "Egyptology" is the pillage and plunder of Egyptian history at the hands of white scientists seeking to build their own civilizational narrative.

No one owes western science unfettered access to their history or the right to assert western science as some objective truth-building endeavour.

[โ€“] eyyImwalkin@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't care about DNA stuff, and to be honest there is a lot of weird race science wrapped up in people's obsession with DNA.

that's how we got here, the left's (and liberals') extreme refusal to engage essentialist frameworks.
This shit could've been nipped in the bud 20 years ago by just factually stating that white people are mutts who were formed 4000 years ago and depigmented due to eating grain and milk. If you ignore it the problem doesn't go away, because people are naturally essentialist, but they're also racist and stupid as fuck, so they do fake essentialism like white pharoahs and QIn Shi Huang had blonde hair

Nor can DNA actually tell you how someone looked in real life

yea thats my point. But it can tell you origins and Ramses' Y-DNA was west African.

This is interesting and inherently political, because the existence of non-white and non-whiteadjacent people is inherently political, and them being in positions of power is even more political. To say that a Black person ruled over anybody in the past (or replace Black with dark skinned Indian) is an extremely political statement that upsets hundreds of millions of West-Eurasian-admixed people all over the world.

Okay but: Everything ever is whitecentric, this is a fact. And if everything ever is whitecentric, it also implies that huge swathes of things are Arab and Northwest-Indian centric due to their undeniable adjacency to whiteness under many different factors (skin tone, facial features, languages, actual genetic admixture, etc). AKA, West-Eurasian admixed peoples.

Egypt will not receive the fairest treatment from white scientists, but it will also not receive the worst treatment

no one owes western science

science is no more western than math is Indian. Less, even

Also this line of logical reasoning doesn't work so well when you realize modern Egypt moved entire temples to build a dam: https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20180409-egypts-exquisite-temples-that-had-to-be-moved