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Upway is another great option if you aren't picky: https://upway.co/collections/electric-bikes . They resell unused or lightly used models as recent as 2025 at a huge discount, and at least here it's usually $49 in shipping costs with a one year warranty. I almost bought through them instead of Aventon's website but they didn't have the specific model I wanted.
Only get a model that has a torque sensor, not one with a cadence sensor. That's the key component for making them enjoyable. The torque sensor multiplies your pedaling power by 50-500% so it feels very natural but like you're a superhuman. The cadence sensor gives you a flat amount of power at each setting so it feels jerky and like the bike is riding itself. Hydraulic brakes over mechanical are a must, and a belt drive over a chain is great if you can find a model with it (Lectric ONE is probably the cheapest I've found new at $2300~) because ebikes are harder on both. 26" tyres feel much better than 20" ones unless you buy a cargo bike in which case you want the 20" ones for the lowest centre of gravity possible, while avoiding fat tyre models because they're harder to pedal if your battery goes dead. Folding ebikes have a weak hinge point that will break long before anything else on the frame does so I'd avoid those unless you need to do mixed-modal commuting or store it in an upstairs apartment.
I'd also only buy from the largest brands right now. The ebike industry is really constricting and brands like Rad and Juiced are going bankrupt. In terms of longevity and component quality I'd only buy from Specialized>Aventon>Lectric>Engwe>Velotric. Anything better than that and it risks being stolen, with only Aventon offering good security features at a low price point, while anything cheaper probably has components that aren't good enough for the extra stress on the bike. Lectric and Engwe have the best value.
what's upway?
Not much, how about you?
not much, what's upway you?
They're an outlet store with physical locations in New York and California. They take overstock bikes from dealers and lightly used personal sales, inspect them, and sell them for like half off the sticker price. Sometimes the shipping costs are too high for a particular bike but they've got a good selection of $49-shipped bikes.
Damn I'm shocked to hear Rad is going down, I see them everywhere
They grew too fast in the COVID era and have been doing layoffs for the past year, firing their CEO last month, while they try to pivot to US retail sales in a handful of cities. They've also faced a big lawsuit recently over a teenager dying on one. They seem fun but there's better competition for their moped-style bikes and better service networks with other retail brands like Specialized/Trek/Aventon so I can't see them lasting the supply shock from the tariffs.
I'm actually looking at getting a Specialized. I was going to get one last year but started redoing my whole wardrobe, getting laser hair removal, and other trans things after coming out.
I was really tempted to get a Specialized Globe Haul but couldn't justify the price difference over an Aventon Abound or the other cheaper models I was looking at. It seems super fun to ride for a cargo bike.