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Originally Posted By u/ang3l_wolf At 2025-04-06 07:53:21 PM | Source


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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That last part is a hell of an insight.

Lump dems in with it too. It is actions of the entire US government. Until you stand up and make a demonstrable difference and change the trajectory, you are part of the problem and not the de facto solution because you hide behind a cowardly two party system.

[–] brot@feddit.org 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No, don't lump dems in with the reps. There is a difference between those parties. It is impossible that some mystical third party will rise in the next 4 years and take over the white house. The US election system sure makes sure of that. There is a big and real difference between the Biden administration and the 47 administration. If Harris was president right now, we wouldn't have this whole mess.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll just copy and paste from another conversation:

While their history of curtailing civil rights under the cover of counterterror is certainly fucked up what really makes everyone suffer isn't what Democrats do; it's what they don't do. Democrats are neoliberals working under a mostly neoliberal status quo so frankly they don't need to do anything except maintain that while occasionally giving the working class breadcrumbs to dissipate activist energy, and now you should ask yourself: What is the (pre-2025) status quo? Is that not one under which everyone suffers? Real wages (until Biden) keep falling, people can't find homes to live, homelessness is at an all-time high, the climate crisis isn't going anywhere, etc etc. Most of the time Democrats aren't malevolent actors, but they're seatwarmers who via their very existence and addiction to power (and donor money) prevent the working class from seizing political power and effecting real change. They also fight anything resembling such organization (see: Bernie 2016 and 2020, Jamaal Bowman). Democrats have coopted leftwing politics and turned them into capitalism that will fuck you slightly less, so rather than a tug of war between progress and reaction you have reaction pulling and "progress" condemning it in strongly worded letters. Biden breaking the railroad strike (you'll see people saying that he gave them their demands later, but that's untrue) was also pretty horrible.

As for giving legitimacy to fascism you have surveillance laws, bombing brown people in the Middle East (both during Obama and Biden's terms), going after anti-Zionist protesters, adopting the Republican stance on immigration (including Trump's stupid border wall), never actually going after the fascists and of course touting bipartisanship and compromise with the fascists.

Note: These are both non-exhaustive lists, as I only follow the general beats of American politics. You'll get far more exhaustive ones from American leftists.

Democrats are never going to give you anything other than a red carpet for fascism to walk on.

[–] brot@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, no. Please don't do this "both-sides are bad" thing the GOP was pushing when Hillary was running against Trump. Take a look at what Trump is doing - that would never happen under Biden or Harris or Clinton.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 6 days ago

Okay I don't like talking like this, but if you read all this and only thought "both sides bad" you need to learn reading comprehension. Trusting the Democrats to beat fascists is demonstrably a failed proposition. No matter how much you unite behind them, a screwdriver can't become a hammer. You know the definition of insanity right? Harris 2024 would've accomplished nothing except lay down the groundwork for Trump (or whoever else the GOP props up if he dies) 2028.

Krasnov is also acceptable