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[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You do not understand anarchism in the slightest. You are imagining some Hobbsian hellscape out of a disaster movie, which is completely counter to human nature.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

This is the definition I am basing my perspective on.

"the organization of society on the basis of voluntary cooperation, without political institutions or hierarchical government; anarchism."

Also human nature has created plenty of hellscapes in the past. Don't think it can't happen again.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can you give some examples of those hellscapes?

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Sparta, the Third Reich, the French Revolution, Chattel America, the British Raj.

My point here is that a lack of a central government will naturally lead to some sort of central government establishing itself. It could come from inside or from an external threat. It's possibly that that government turns out to be authoritarian and oppressive, like the ones I mentioned.

For instance, how would an anarchist ethnically Jewish society hold out against an industrial Nazi Germany should they be so unlucky to simply exist next to them?

The British Raj managed to establish itself and rape India for 90 years even despite there already being established governments in the region. Imagine how powerless an anarchic Indian society would've been to defend against the British Empire at it's peak.

Anarchy is not sustainable. That's why we should strive to put in place a good and equitable government to protect us from that possible tyranny. The problem is the same human forces corrupt government's too.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Huh so they're all based on hierarchical structures. And they came directly from other hierarchical structures. That's interesting. It's almost like your argument is nonsense because hellscapes are a result of hierarchical structures.