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European police say KidFlix, "one of the largest pedophile platforms in the world," busted in joint operation.
(www.europol.europa.eu)
this post was submitted on 02 Apr 2025
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"Clearly in their late teens," lol no. And since AI doesn't have age, it's possible that was seeded with the face of a 15yr old and that they really are 15 for all intents and purposes.
Obviously there's a difference with AI porn vs real, that's why I told you to search AI in the first place??? The convo isn't about AI porn, but AI porn uses images to seed their new images including CSAM
That's...not how AI image generation works? AI image generation isn't just building a collage from random images in a database - the model doesn't have a database of images within it at all - it just has a bunch of statistical weightings and net configuration that are essentially a statistical model for classifying images, being told to produce whatever inputs maximize an output resembling the prompt, starting from a seed. It's not "seeded with an image of a 15 year old", it's seeded with white noise and basically asked to show how that white noise looks like (in this case) "woman porn miniskirt", then repeat a few times until the resulting image is stable.
Unless you're arguing that somewhere in the millions of images tagged "woman" being analyzed to build that statistical model is probably at least one person under 18, and that any image of "woman" generated by such a model is necessarily underage because the weightings were impacted however slightly by that image or images, in which case you could also argue that all drawn images of humans are underage because whoever drew it has probably seen a child at some point and therefore everything they draw is tainted by having been exposed to children ever.
Yes, it is seeded with kids' faces, including specific children like someone's classmate. And yes, those children, all of them, who it uses as a reference to make a generic kid face, are all being abused because it's literally using their likeness to make CSAM. That's quite obvious.
It would be different if the AI was seeding models from cartoons, but it's from real images.
OK, so this is just the general anti-AI image generation argument where you believe any image generated is in some meaningful way a copy of every image analyzed to produce the statistical model that eventually generated it?
I'm surprised you're going the CSAM route with this and not just arguing that any AI generated sexually explicit image of a woman is nonconsensual porn of literally every woman who has ever posted a photo on social media.
No, I am not saying that.
I'm saying if an AI image is sexual and seeded from irl child models, then it is CSAM.
Adult women who consensually post their image to social media are WAY different than children who can't consent to even enter a contract.
Also, I did argue that already when I mentioned how many AI porn models are directly seeded from Scarlett Johansson's face. Can you read?
To be clear, when you say "seeded from" you mean an image that was analyzed as part of building the image classifying statistical model that is then essentially running reverse to produce images, yes?
And you are arguing that every image analyzed to calculate the weights on that model is in a meaningful way contained in every image it generated?
I'm trying to nail down exactly what you mean when you say "seeded by."