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This is something the evangelicals understand that the left doesn't. Politicians are tools. You use the best available tool to do the job.
They're using Trump to get what they want.
You're proposing we build a tool factory on a ten year timeline to build a better tool, and until then we just do fuck all.
Hi, quick question, I'm trying to farm a plot of land, but I only have two tools, one that spreads salt over it and another that spreads nuclear waste over it, how should I proceed?
When both tools are actively harmful to the tasks you're trying to accomplish, you shouldn't use either. In fact you should dismantle them entirely, maybe once they're fully destroyed you can salvage something useful from the parts. But you certainly don't use the machine that salts the earth if you're hoping to grow plants, and you certainly don't use the Democratic party if you're looking to advance progressive causes.
These people hate us and everything we want to accomplish, why on earth would we just fall in line behind them, asking nothing in return?
Btw, the right is far more inclined towards defection from their party when they don't get their way. That's the reason why the Republican party has been shifted to the right. It's liberals who are die hard committed to this suicidal and irrational ideology of "lesser evilism."
Because if you don't choose the salt, someone else will use the nuke anyway.
If I do choose salt, then I won't grow any plants and will starve come winter anyway. Who gives a shit?
It's impossible to reason with you people, no matter what kind of analogy I use, your brains are fully seeped in the ideology of dying slowly, that's all you can imagine and all you aspire to.
I'm not going to spread salt over my own fields to stop someone from spreading nuclear waste, I'm going to get out there and wave a fucking stick at anyone who comes around trying to spread either, and if the rest of you damn fools would get out of that damn salt tractor and join me, we might actually have a chance at actual survival. Until then, even if your tractors are stronger than my stick, at least I'll die trying to survive.
Getting away from the silly analogy: trans people and minorities and immigrants. They suffer more by the wrong choice from two bad choices.
Maybe you suffer exactly the same. Good for you. Enjoy that privilege. But maybe next time use that privilege to help those who aren't as lucky.
"Suffering is privilege" god I hate it when y'all co-opt progressive language to argue for a right-wing agenda like this. I'd rather you just call me a slur.
That's literally what I did this time. Except that Palestinians either don't register to you as human beings, or you've made peace with sacrificing them in exactly the same way you'll make peace with sacrificing trans people and immigrants the moment you feel we're too much of a liability.
There are so many ongoing crises that I can't even keep track of them all and the Democrats don't want to do shit to fix any of them and your solution is to salt your own fields and just keep sleepwalking straight into collapse. It's literal insanity.
Suffering less is absolutely a privilege. In what universe would it not be?
I'm not sure if you've noticed but I really only read the first two sentences of your replies. In case you were wondering how much time to spend on me.
You said that suffering "exactly the same" as the examples you brought up was "privileged," meaning that suffering itself is a privilege, not "suffering less."
You literally can't understand any idea that doesn't fit on a bumper sticker 💀
Suffering exactly the same as before is a privilege compared to suffering more than before.
You left out "as before." Regardless, I'm trans myself, so I do suffer "exactly the same" as the groups you mentioned since I'm part of them. I'm just not willing to take your horrific, insane, and suicidal devil's bargain of selling out another minority for temporary, fleeting safety until you find us politically inconvenient and make the exact same calculus about us as you do for Palestinians. As I said, I'm fucked either way, so I may as well go down swinging, at least trying to fight for my survival.
Please stop speaking for us and using us a crudgel to shame people into supporting your shitty corporate genocidaires.