Even with this post she makes it about her and what SHE warned us about. It feels like the same energy as the "I'm with HER" campaigning she was doing in 2016.

[+] Jhex@lemmy.world -8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Somehow, those 2 things are not quite on the same level, don't you think?

People rightly laugh a the ignorant parents who let their kids come to harm by refusing to vaccinate them and who blame everyone but themselves.... but the rest of Americans seem the same, they could have prevented Fascism by voting, twice, for a woman.... but neither offer them a pony or held their hand or chew the food for them so here we are... not their fault

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're oversimplifying the issue. She did not lose because she was a woman, she lost because she gave a fuck off campaign where the party slogan was "Love Trumps Hate". Then the exact same fucking people who ran her campaign, came in for Kamala right as they told Tim to stop calling MAGAts "weird" because it might alienate voters.

Bernie, however, has never had a position higher than the State level. He's had tens of thousands in show up to his rally's with AOC just this past month. If you think they only lost because America is sexist, you drank the blu-anon kool-aid.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, a lot of stuff suddenly made sense after I learned that they foisted the HRC campaign staff of Kamala. May those staffers go find successful work elsewhere, and never again in politics.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 4 points 3 days ago

Nah they caused the literal rise of fascism in this country similar to the rise of the Nazi party. I hope they go cold hungry and jobless. I'm tired of being the "bigger person" when the assholes who fuck us over get to ride off into the sunset BC they have enough money to do so.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

the rest of Americans seem the same, they could have prevented Fascism by voting, twice, for a woman

Plenty of voting happened in 2016 and 2024. But you're discounting all the hysteria built up around the liberal party candidates, all the money changing hands under the table for positive coverage, and all the vote caging, disenfranchising, and assorted electoral ratfvcking that went along with it.

At some point, you'd think Democrats would have noticed how Mail-In Voting and looser election rules rebounded hugely to their favor in 2020. Or how a big activist base of left-liberal voters benefited the party in '06/'08.

But all that activism also came with demands. OWS, BernieBros, BLM, and the folks talking about Defunding ICE like it wasn't a bad idea. Dems hated that and worked to purge these campaigners from their own party.

They came after TikTok for being Too Wokely Chinese. They came after ACORN for enfranchising too many AA midwesterners. They came after the DSA for fundraising on the wrong candidates and issues. And then they'd see their vote totals dry up to the tune of millions (in 2024 over ten million) votes. All lost to outright hostility or careless neglect.

"Why didn't you vote for our team?" is a stupid question to ask people who your DOJ allowed purged from the rolls years earlier.