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[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 122 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Outlook (new) (a webversion in a wrapper, so it only has half of the functions, but they force you to use it while planning to deprecate the proper version)

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

But it comes with new features too, like an ad at the top of your message list every time you open it! We should consider ourselves lucky that they're giving this to us for free!

/s

[–] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The moment they made me jump through hoops to use the old mail app instead of using the one with ads is the moment I switched to thunderbird.

I plan to switch to Linux but I am very busy right now and installing a new OS onto my PC isn't something I can do.

Take your time. The penguins will be there for you, when you're ready.

[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Oh, I can't use Thunderbird at work, it's against the policy

[–] mrmhm@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Except the Windows version of Outlook (New) doesn't work with all of their data centers - but the web version and Mac version do - because they didn't fully write out the authentication framework for high security tenants so you're forced to use Outlook (Classic) until they "eventually" update it.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly, bring back waterfall development cycles...

They we awful and failed a lot, by at least we didn't have zombie failures being used!

[–] dovah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Deploying incrementally doesn't need to mean releasing incrementally.

That's a great point , but even the degenerates in the windows and office teams make an absolute mess of things and tend to prioritize BS cosmetic changes over actual improvements as a result

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Hey, that's a Google move!

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why does it matter if it's a web version, if all mail messages today are HTML anyway?

It's actually the only program on the desktop that have valid reasons to be web-based.

[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It matters, because it's not about messages, it's about the interface and all the logic which was built over a long period of time. Having an OS-native gui is better because it's faster, it's "already there" and not just loads, and it's all done in the desktop app already.
As a good comparison - what would you choose for any service on your smartphone - an app or a really nice mobile website?