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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh, other question: Is Russia's current set of actions more likely to produce the result:

  • Everyone on their border relaxes about having to join NATO, definitely not going to join NATO now
  • Everyone on or near their border is interested in any defensive alliance they can get their hands on, trains actively to resist a Russian invasion, ideally tries to aim for nuclear weapons in the future

?

Since you're right that Russia was totally just pushing back NATO encirclement, I feel like they must have achieved goal #1. Also their military has been showing it's a hell of a force to be reckoned with. Obviously.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

NATO has never been a "defensive alliance" its entire formation and purpose was to destroy communist movements and stifle their progress, also NATO was literally founded with a bunch of Nazis in high positions of power.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah. But Russia isn’t communist though. NATO is just for stifling dissent from the US hegemony there’s no ideology beyond that.

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

I think that's more an issue of the organization having achieved its original goal of destroying the Soviet Union but institutions like to continue to exist so they had to find another big bad to focus on.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sounds good. Which result is this more likely to produce? I feel like maybe you meant to respond to someone else's message, since you missed the question I asked in mine.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because I don't deal in useless hypotheticals based on flawed analysis. I deal in reality. You should try it instead of being a smug asshole.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 month ago

I deal in reality

Clearly

[–] Maturin@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Where can I find a set of these massive blinders you wear?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not sure. Maybe from North Korea or produced domestically? Since you're not allowed to import them anymore.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ooh North Korea now. You're just pulling out all the western racist tropes now bravo.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would importing from North Korea involve some kind of racist implication?

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had a feeling you wouldn't be able to answer that either lol

Happy Easter

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Okay fine, it's because of aforementioned western racism and chauvinism brainworms to jump to North Korea to try to insult communists. Just like you are scare mongering in the vein of "asiatic hordes" by your framing of this war in Ukraine.

Now I'm done.

Happy Easter

Also it's Ēostre. I'm not a Christian.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wasn't insulting communists. Russia is not communist. It's a gangster-capitalist imperialist oligarchy, which is why it's weird that tankies go to bat for it.

I was insulting Russia for tanking their own economy by starting a punitive and barbaric war against their neighbor and then fucking up the war and their own relations with the entire rest of the world. There was no insult to North Korea, I was simply holding them up as an example of one of the handful of countries that Russia can still trade with. I do also like to insult North Korea but for reasons that have nothing at all to do with racism.

Want me to replace it with Iran? I have a great deal more respect for Iran than I do for either Russia or North Korea and the joke still works. It would also technically be accurate to say that they can still trade with China, which sort of undoes the joke a little bit and makes it not funny. But that would be racist also, too? I guess, since bringing up a country populated by non-white people is automatically racist in your mind? I think Iran, like I say that one I have respect for so there's no room for accidental racist implication. Want me to replace it with Iran?

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Want me to replace it with Iran?

"how about I insult this other non-white country that is a designated enemy of the US government, whose propaganda I swallow with zero consideration"

Not quite the point I think you meant to make but you sure proved mine.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 1 month ago

Why would it be an insult to say that Iran is willing to trade with Russia? (Or for that matter that North Korea is)