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The sources of these pieces are literally the Ukrainian government itself. The journalists reporting based on these sources work for some of the richest people on the planet. If you think RT isn't reputable for being Russian state media, you cannot seriously assert that The Ukranian government and the private mouthpieces of billionaires are even slightly more reputable. Ukraine especially has been known widely for making shit up, even NATOids admit this.
this is a really misinformed and reductive understanding of the situation. this is a conflict that has been happening since 2014, and arguably much longer if you consider that Ukraine is being used as a proxy by NATO which was literally founded to be an aggressor against the Russians and their allies before most of us were born.
oh are we playing "libs do quick google searches and link the first results where the headline looks like it might vibe with some claim in the vicinity of theirs and the informed have to actually read what they are throwing out there in order to respond to it" again? It's a gish gallop every time.
Well, it is the dumb ask for easy to find resources
except that the sources you linked are "literally the Ukrainian government itself" as the other commenter pointed out but you didnt even respond to that. Are you at least going to assert that the ukraininan government and the private mouthpieces of billionaires are more reputable than russian state media? Or are you just going to blow past that and pretend you actually presented an argument?
Also did you read the articles at least? Did you read them in full before linking them?
Ordinary libs don't read past the headline. They believe what they want to believe - and what they want to believe is their self-righteousness, manufactured by US/Western propaganda press. They don't even try to look into the other side's version.
I like this sub, because a whole lot of struggle and no sources or answers from the tankies
How do you read all that and come to this conclusion?
Like, it’s genuinely impressive how low-intelligence you are. I bet you felt zero cognitive dissonance throughout that entire discourse.
You’ve literally been made a clown of and proven wrong at the most basic level, and yet you proclaim your grand intellectual victory.
Go ahead lil guy, use those logic and facts you’re so proud of again! You can do it!
Don't bother, there's no point. Even if it made any sense - we neither have the time nor resources to engage with every single smug lib. That's not our strategy.
Yup, keep proving me right. Just another attack. I haven't left any personal comments, kremlin klown
curiously, you also havent responded to the sources you were provided.
also:
not personal.
You come in here with the smuggest fucking attitude, are surprised when people respond in kind and then claim some moral high ground... Get some perspective friend
Do you choose to believe that everyone you argue with is a Russian state employee because it allows you to believe that you're doing something more meaningful with your life than...this?
"That doesn't look like anything to me"
Lol, RT is literally russia
Probably couldn't even find a source to back that one up
?? i know?? hence the reference to russian state media? what even are you trying to say 😂
im also taking this as a "no i havent read them but expect you to"
Okay, well give me something not from Russia that opposes it
Again, why do other people need to provide sources for your spurious claims? You are asserting something and cannot find any evidence to support it, if you had a spine you would then admit you don't know what you are talking about and at the very least be open to other possibilities.