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Western media have finally change course. They are now admitting that the much promoted Ukrainian counter-offensive has failed. In fact, the acknowledge that it never had a chance to win in the first place.

The Hill, the Washington Post and CNN now agree that the Ukrainian army will never achieve its aims.

western MSM has a rare encounter with reality!

That makes it difficult for the Biden administration to get Congress approval for $24 billion in additional 'aid' to Ukraine. It does not make sense to pay for a cause that is evidently lost.

b seems overly hopeful regarding the rationality of US congress, but i think hes right- why would we throw more money at them, US politicians have made it clear they do not support bringing Ukraine into NATO if they do not win this conflict. of course, US politicians are prone to lying and misleading

Nothing has come from the 'peace conference' which Saudi Arabia arranged on Ukraine's behalf

lol. lmao even. props to big dog MBS for trying

Despite the onslaught of bad news the Ukrainian army is still trying to take Russian positions in the south and east of Ukraine. But it simply does not have enough in men and material to break through the lines.

Even if they would manage to get a local breakthrough there are not enough reserves to push for the necessary follow up. Just one of the NATO trained brigades has still been held back. All others have been mauled in their various deployment zones.

nothing has changed it seems

In the northeast around Kupyansk the Russians have started their own offensive which has the Ukrainians on the run. Ukraine has ordered the evacuation of the area

But Kupyansk is a Russian city and people refuse to leave.

show this to the libs claiming Russians are committing genocide in the regions they capture. curious that these civilians are content with Russian occupation when you believe what western media claims

The Russian campaign is slowly speeding up. As the Ukrainian Strana.news reports (machine translation):

Also in Ukraine, it is recorded that from Kupyansk to Bakhmut, Russia has increased the number of attacks.

"Over the past month, the total number of attacks in the Kupyansk, Limansky and Bakhmut directions has grown significantly. In July, during the week there were 6-6.5 thousand attacks, during the last week-9 thousand attacks, " - said the representative of the National Guard Ruslan Muzychuk.

According to him, the Russian Federation does not experience "shell hunger".

Aviation is also actively used, and over the past few weeks, more than 50 air attacks have been taking place every day, and sometimes more than 80.

That is bad news for the Ukrainian side which lacks the reserves to counter the Russian onslaught. There are also less weapons coming in from the West. F-16 fighter jets will be delayed for another nine months due to training issues. Tanks and other material are in short supply.

these supply issues sure bode well for the west’s performance in WW3 sicko-hyper

Strana also report of an interview with a knowledgeable Ukrainian soldier (machine translation):

Continuing the topic of the situation at the front, an interesting interview was given by a Ukrainian sniper fighting near Bakhmut with the call sign "Grandfather". On the air of political scientist Yuri Romanenko, he was introduced as Konstantin Proshinsky (this is a pseudonym).

The fighter spoke in detail about his vision of the situation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Russian army.

  1. Mobilization. In his opinion, it is conducted incorrectly. Recruits are sent to the front who have never been trained, and they are often over 50 years old and with a whole bunch of diseases.
  1. No rotation. The soldier says that "the same brigades" are fighting at the front, and people are not taken out of the front line for six months or more. Whereas by Western standards, they can be kept in a war zone for no more than three months.
  1. Behavior of mid-and high-level commanders. According to Proshinsky, many of them are trying to arrange a "mini-Stalingrad" on the positions, forcing them to go into frontal assaults on well-fortified Russian positions.
  1. The Russian Army began to fight better.
  1. Proshinsky believes that Russia has not yet used much of what it has against Ukraine.

The soldier thinks that the Russians will not move from their positions and that a stalemate peace like in Korea would be the end result.

UAF in real dire times— recruiting the elderly, poor logistics, engaging the enemy at inopportune times, and Russia has yet to waver

I believe that to be wrong. Russia's aim is to liberate at least the four regions that it has claimed for itself. For political reasons it can not stop before that is done.

Should the Ukraine continue to fight after that, Russia is likely to set new aims and take more land.

more editorializing, but it doesnt seem unreasonable. i thought Russia would stick to its original goal of Donetsk and Luhansk, but if Zaporizhzhia and Kherson are receptive to Russian governance, it would be foolish for Russia to give them up

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[-] Nightcastle@hexbear.net 114 points 1 year ago

My american internet friends got so mad at me when I said at the beginning of all this that there should be an immediate ceasefire and surrender to stop the fighting and I was called an apologist for Putin and that this was an unprovoked invasion and you have to protect yourself. These people never experienced military action near their homes.

[-] grey_wolf_whenever@hexbear.net 88 points 1 year ago

Same, I got called a Nazi for saying we shouldn't send them "lethal aid", as if flooding a warzone with bullets is how you get less people shot.

[-] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

"But it will only be the bad people getting shot more"

[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

Need to have more good guys with a gun after all.

...those guys with Swastikas tattoos are the good guys right?

[-] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh nohoho, patented Slava Ukraini, old slavic symbols!

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

it's a regional dialect

[-] KarlBarqs@hexbear.net 86 points 1 year ago

Every lib I know says this is a genocidal war (despite no proof of any intent to genocide, they just think Putin wants to massacre every Ukrainian ever) and that, responding to that report about crackdowns on draft dodgers, anyone who tries to avoid conscription is a traitor and should be treated as such.

Absolutely deranged the takes one can dig up when one is not threatened in any way.

[-] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think they saw Bucha and were like yep the whole thing is about genocide. Now imagine if they declared a genocide every time the US committed a war crime lol

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

The only side that wants to "fight to the last Ukrainian" is the NATO side, so it is kind of a genocide just perpetrated by US empire on its puppet state.

  • I wouldn't actually call it that, just making fun of libs who call basically every war now a genocide, unless the US is doing it/or supporting it
[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 76 points 1 year ago

To Americans, war is no different from a movie or video game.

[-] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unprovoked invasion is when you let right wing ghouls to ethnically cleanse members of a country's ethnic majority in a region next door to its border and let NATO use said region as a pressure point.

Putin apologia is when you don't want to see slavs die for NATO.

You tankies just don't get basic critical thinking smdh my dick head/s

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

an unprovoked invasion

NATO expands: I sleep

Donbass Secedes and wants to be Russian to avoid ethnic persecution from Lviv: Real shit

[-] SimulatedLiberalism@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fun fact: only 3 countries on the list (Hungary, Slovenia and North Macedonia) held a referendum on whether their countries should join NATO. So much for NATO as the defender of democracy I guess. But the Crimean referedum was a total sham, definitely a fake, I know because I am an expert on democracy.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

And North Macedonia and Slovenia was formerly Yugoslavia anyway, so it's hard to know if they would have chosen NATO if they were still part of Yugoslavia.

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