Of course LLMs aren't a simulation of consciousness with the same abilities of a human, the idea is that if a model was trained first on Marxist theory and history before taking in more information through that perspective there could be a point where this can be used to simulate economic models that would be useful for economic planning.

You couldn't make it any more confusing than talking about LLMs and economic model simulation in a single sentence then.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it confusing or are you just so locked in on your special interest that you are ignoring the context? I made a comment about a future CPC AI that I have imagined for fun, someone responded to inform me about how LLMs work, which isn't what I was talking about, I responded saying of course that is true, then elaborated the idea they had misunderstood in my original comment.

You even left out the part where I clarified that LLMs as they stand are a part of paving the way towards the idea I brought up. If something like what I have imagined for kicks is ever made, LLMs will certainly be a part of its development.

I'm sure I could have been more concise but considering you used the word "gaslighting" to describe what you feel my comment was, it seems like you just reaching heavily for the outcomes you seek

[–] awth13@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It appears to be confusing because other people also read your comments in the same way as me. Thank you for clarifying though, I understand that it must be frustrating getting your thoughts hijacked like that! Before I say anything else, I'd also like to clarify that, in my first comment, I didn't mean your comment in particular – I was replying to someone who already replied to you after all – but a wider trend I can't describe more specifically without naming names, which I don't want to do. With that being said,

LLMs will certainly be a part of its development.

Why certainly? That's the point where what you are saying now can feel like part of that LLM hype bullshit because I don't see how a chatbot can help a planned economy. Other machine learning models, sure, and I've fantasised about this before too, but LLMs seem to be orthogonal to this use case. Or do you rather mean that the insights obtained while developing LLMs can help us towards those better machine learning applications?

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yet others are not reading it that way, so maybe there are multiple people who are just skimming over what I said to find what they want to go in on.

I appreciate you clarifying your original comment.

Or do you rather mean that the insights obtained while developing LLMs can help us towards those better machine learning applications?

Yes, exactly this. I don't think the future technology we have both fantasized about is just a beefed up chat gpt, but that the field of machine learning as a whole will advance and LLMs are a part of that process.

[–] awth13@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I apologise for misunderstanding you. I agree, it's just that everyone is really tired already of the LLM hype machine that keeps claiming AI will take over any moment now when we don't even know if and when that future technology is going to be achieved. Personally, I think the LLM hype is counterproductive to that effort, which is why I use such strong terms when discussing it.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks for apologizing.

I definitely understand where you are coming from, although I do think there is a Luddite-esque angle that attempts to reject "AI" as bad because of the LLM hype and the negative uses pushed by capitalists. "AI" is already putting people out of work and being used in a lot of industries, some of which (like medicine) are actually really promising, and others are pretty terrible.

Either way, ending capitalism is the only way to ensure that there is any future where the technology is a net positive.

I do think that with the rate of climate collapse, there's a good chance we won't see it reach the point of being advanced enough to be liberating.