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[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not in Europe etc.

Edit: But ok teeth are not 100% covered here ( Germany ) either. Of course, the health insurance companies also choose the cheapest methods. So that a private dental insurance is worthwhile. But you should take one that really covers everything later on.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is just my experience, and I really hope and suspect it’s not indicative of German dental care generally, but it’s so audacious that I have to share it.

I got fucked as a new (edit: privately insured) arrival in in Germany. I went in to get a checkup, they wanted to fill a cavity, which is fine by me, but I had a minor allergic reaction to the numbing agent, which was only obvious afterwards. Not a big deal, I called them to ask what was used and they told me to swing by the next day and pick up a sample to give to the allergenist. That’s way more than I was expecting, but could be helpful, so sure. I go there, she apologizes and asks how I’m doing, and I told her not to worry, it couldn’t have been predicted, and itchy. The whole interaction was less than a minute.

She billed me for a visit, a phone consultation, and an “in person consultation” the next day, the latter two of which were each around €100. I called to complain, and got a “I don’t know how they do it in your country, but here dentists are respected” type response and they were unwilling to budge.

Two weeks later, I got billed for another phone consult, but I had notes this time. I sent them a letter with my notes from the phone call, noting that there was no dental conversation, and unless they’d like to provide me with their notes, I wasn’t paying it.

Then they billed me for the sample of numbing agent out of spite.

[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That is of course very bad. My argument was also more related to the population born here or long-term insured. I've also never heard of the cost of a telephone consultation. It depends on the personal consultation, but actually I only know costs from the actual treatment and the high costs depend on how long you have been insured (bonus). I am currently undergoing treatment (top quality with a correspondingly high price) which costs the equivalent of around €10,000, of which my health insurance covers around €5,000. However, I only have to pay the other €5,000 myself because I don't have any additional dental insurance. Otherwise I wouldn't have to pay anything myself.

But you also say privately insured, did you mean normal health insurance or supplementary dental insurance? Either way, I have to agree with you that you've unfortunately been left out.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, I suspect I was paying the foreigner tax, but I’m still a little mad, lol. I had a plan with dental included, but they didn’t cover anything except for the first visit, because I didn’t actually receive any treatment for the other billings.

I probably could have made a giant stink about it and either had the bills reduced/dropped by the provider or covered by the insurer, but I was new in the country and didn’t want to cause a fuss if it was in fact normal.

[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can understand that. I'll be honest and say that I wouldn't know what to do in such a situation at first and would have to find out everything I could.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I had saved up a lot of money for the transition, and it was worth it to me to not have to fight another bureaucratic battle at the time. I honestly considered buying a fax machine because of all the paperwork I had to fill out in the first couple years, which I guess is not that surprising for immigrating to Germany. I began to understand Kafka a lot better, lol.

[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Fax... modern Germany 😁