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[–] Lucien@mander.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Pope is kind of both, though

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The catholic church is an international organization though

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe they live in Vatican city

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Domestic terrorist" would imply the Pope is bombing the Vatican

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think that's a pretty narrow definition of terrorist. My mind went to the beliefs he preaches.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What, no, using violence is like the only qualifier to "terrorism" that everyone agrees on.

Now, we can - and should - discuss what violence means and the forms it takes in society. But actual physical violence is pretty universally agreed to be the key qualifier for a terrorist.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it was universal the fascists wouldn't call spray painting a Tesla terrorism

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Intentionally damaging property is considered violence, yes. (Don't mistake this as some sort of pro-Musk statement.)

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Truly there is no difference between blowing up a passenger bus and graffiti.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Never said that. 🙄 Don't put words in my mouth. I quite literally said don't mistake it as pro-Musk and here you are doing that. Obviously there is a difference between domestic violence against a spouse and violence against oppressors, don't you agree? Violence is not inherently negative.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tell yourself whatever you want, mr vandalism is terrorism.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm saying intentional property damage is violence. I did not say defacing Teslas is terrorism. All terrorism involves violence. Not all violence is terrorism.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

He probably does bomb Vatican whenever the Holy Kitchen serves some particularly spicy food.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

Pope's home country is literally the tiniest one, and he rules it. Can one be a domestic terrorist in that position?

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know about that, Pope Francis was pretty good by my standards

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If your view that progress is only progress if you get everything you want with no downsides what so ever, you're doomed to be disappointed for the rest of your life.

The last guy was shockingly progressive for a pope. If that's not something to at least appreciate, even if you're not going to laud it, then all this bitching is pointless grandstanding.