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Leopards Ate My Face

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[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I watch people like Ben Shapiro all the time because I don’t want to exclusively live in my echo chamber and it’s good to challenge your beliefs and staying up to date with all sides.

I prefer the more moderate conservatives but it’s good to watch everything.

Something i am concerned about here on Lemmy is the instant downvoting without discussion of dissenting opinions. Hardly conducive to bringing about a revolution if we won’t even engage with certain people.

Seems like a massive circle jerk at times where we can all feel superior because we have empathy. But i want actual change and not just to seem like I’m progressive.

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree it's good to subject yourself to other viewpoints but I'm definitely not going to subject myself to actual propaganda

[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

I get what you’re saying but people like Ben Shapiro, Candice Owens, etc have proven themselves to be shitstain propagandists many years ago. Regularly consuming propaganda, even if you know what it is, is not healthy and it does affect you.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's like saying, "Yeah like to drink Clorox because i like to know what the poison tastes like."

I understand it though. I used to be like that. Now I'm too old to waste my time on them.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So what’s the goal if you don’t want to bring more people to your side of things? Nothing will change.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

As Hannah Ardent opined, she was there to observe and document, changing peoples mind wasn't her objective.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I get your point of view, but I ain’t got time to listen to these chuds.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Do you see how if the other side has this same mentality then nothing really changes?

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I don't rightly expect whether I watch propaganda to change the opinions of those that believe it. Just because "they" won't consume content I know to be good, that means I should consume content I know to be bad to balance it out?

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You sound like you think each of us is quantum entangled with someone on another side.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

They haven't even watched the video.
Their entire schtick is "both sides".

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

The "other side" can't be helped with mere words because they've been conditioned to ignore reality (or they've picked their position on feelings and don't want to change). Libs watching Benny shaps lie and support genocide isn't going to change the maga electorate.

As soon as you find a conservative who doesn't lie, let me know and I'll check out some of their content, but I don't think there's literally a single honest gop supporter these days.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

The other side says things like "I'd still vote for him even if he shot my dog." There is no rationality there; there is no benefit to listening to cultists.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So what did he say in the video?

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This particular one is still on my watch list. The last thing I saw of him was him calling out Matt Walsh.

[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

So you came here to defend videos like this, without actually watching this video? Seems irresponsible.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I agree with viewing both sides, but I would rather read what they're saying than watch the shit come out their mouths.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

So have you even watched the video yet or what? Lmao