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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by CollisionResistance@lemm.ee to c/ukraine_war_news@lemmygrad.ml

Mitch McConell says the quiet part out loud.

Exact full quote from CNN:

“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

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[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I googled polls and I think there's a clear majority (roughly 60-70%) that think each of them was a mistake, but there's 25% who don't say that about Vietnam so that's probably a hard floor of psychos that will support any war in any context. That's pretty consistent with the 20% of Democrats and 30% of Republicans who support bombing Agrabah, the fictional country from Alladin.

I'd like to think we don't have a lot of those types on here but if we do they're probably unreachable. But initial support for Iraq was around 80%, so a large number (possibly the majority) of USians followed the trajectory of being lured in by propaganda and then later turning against it, and those people I think are reachable if you can make them realize the same thing is happening again.

[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Have to remember who is getting polled as well. Nobody under 25 answers phone from unknown, they are polling land lines which assumes a certain class, many poorer people working at night when such a call would come, and they also have a tendency to poll certain districts over others.

Consent ain't gonna manufacture itself

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

True, polls are fake, but idk a better way to estimate it.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Rune sticks can be a bit more accurate but only under full moon with just the right amount of mist rising from the lake.

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