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It is possible to be pro-Palestinian and anti-Hamas at the same time.
Similarly, it is possible to be pro-Jewish and anti-Israel at the same time.
They key is to be in favour of, and supporting, the innocent civilians that are NOT wielding hate and bigotry, and in direct and vociferous opposition to the power structures on BOTH sides that have looked true evil in the eye and said, “hold my beer and watch this”.
I am as anti-Hamas as I am anti-Israel. Both power/political structures are among the most reprehensibly evil orgs on the planet at this time.
I stand with the innocent civilians; with THE PEOPLE.
If you oppose armed resistance against genocide you are pro genocide. It is that simple
If you are anti Hamas you are anti Palestinian. Because Hamas are the ones fighting against the occupation and genocide. Else you can pretend to be pro Palestinian by supporting the PA which is nothing more than an extension of Israel oppressing Palestinians.
But besides that, Feddit is straight up banning calls for Zionism to be abolished which is full undeniable pro-Zionism
Israel don't like hamas there is a misconception about israel/hamas relation. Israel never financed hamas, it only allowed Qatar to transfer found to them when they was still a charity organization.
I should remind you that israel have the real control on whole palestine. Israel collects significant tax and customs revenues on behalf of the PA under the Paris Protocol and has the power to withhold, delay, or deduct these funds, often as a political tool or in response to PA policies.
How many idf terrorists was killed by hamas versus the PA. PA is constantly collaborating for israel security while israel is arming setlers and protect them when they attack west bankers. Weirdly you still think hamas is the fake resistance and PA is the true resistance. You are so weird
They literally have talked openly about it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas#Use_of_Hamas_to_undermine_the_Palestinian_Authority
The idea that they were ever a "charity organization" is pure fantasy. The destruction of Israel is in the charter. Literally everyone else in these comments is aware that they are focused around armed resistance to an occupation. That is literally their reason for being.
When I am king, the one and only rule on Lemmy will be that anyone who tells their opponent what it is their opponent believes, when neither their opponent or even anyone else said the thing they're saying, will not just be banned. Someone will go to their house and kick them, and tell them sternly, "No!"
I actually feel duped that I took your comment seriously enough to dig up citations for why it was wrong. Reading the end, it's clear to me that you're either just trying to provoke conflict for reasons of your own, or else you're more or less just sitting down at your computer to go BLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBL onto Lemmy thinking that it is productive input.
I'll ask you again how many idf terrorists was killed by Hamas and how many was killed by the PA and do you deny that PA are collaborating with Israel and do nothing against illegal settlers
https://www.972mag.com/colonial-idea-palestinian-authority/
www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-it-supports-bolstering-pa-forces-to-combat-west-bank-terror
Israel love hamas so much according to you that they killed all it's top leaders
Hamas is even more popular than PA in the west bank where Hamas can't do anything to people who oppose them since they don't control the west bank
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/why-hamas-popularity-soaring-among-palestinians-west-bank
I said literally nothing at all about the PA. My point was that Hamas is corrupt, violent, and counterproductive, which is why the government of Israel supports them. Them periodically killing civilians or IDF people is extremely useful for Likud, which is why Likud likes them. Nothing Palestinian is strong enough to present any genuine threat of any kind of resistance. If Hamas or the PA could present anything like a real threat to Israel as a whole, the leaders would react differently, but different trivial numbers of Israelis killed by one or the other has absolutely no bearing on anything I'm saying.
You seem like you are persistently claiming I am saying one thing, and arguing very vigorously against that thing. Like I or someone here is trying to compare the PA to Hamas. I thought it was weird that you held up the PA as the "fake" resistance or seemed to be missing the point so thoroughly, but I think the only time I ever even mentioned them was asking you some questions about your own point of view.
Because it barely matters anymore. They are just killing everyone in Gaza.
For a time, they needed to delegitimize Palestine on the world stage, and Hamas was violent enough and not-PA enough to serve that purpose.
Now, what they need to do is pretend that their "war" is against Hamas and not against a totally defenseless wreckage of starving, traumatized familes, and so holding up some dead Hamas people is useful for them.
It's different behavior for different situations. This is not some kind of PhD argument I am making here, that needs a deep understanding in order to grasp it. I honestly have no idea why you are so amped up about this or not listening to anything I am saying, and determined to "win" the exchange instead. I hope you grow out of it, and learn to blossom into the beautiful butterfly of online discoursing that you always knew you could be.
Really. You quickly forgot this comment you made?
Palestinians been occupied for 57 years what do you want them to do nothing at all? Even if they attack only Israeli soldiers Israel will massacre people, if they peacefully protest like in the past they will get massacred and if they do nothing Israel will maintain the blockade, they will keep expending illegal settlement, settlers terrorists will keep oppressing Palestinians, west bankers homes will still get demolished
Finally stop acting pretentious, there is no reason for me to try to win an argument with a random person on the internet