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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Your entire comment is complete fucking irrelevant to my point. Jesus Christ all the fucking Gaza grandstanding is obnoxious. This bullshit was irrelevant during the election and it's even more ridiculous now when someone even worse is in office and you're still stuck on calling out Biden. There's not a president in the last fifty years who would've done anything different. I honestly don't believe you give a fuck about Palestinians except perhaps in the most performative, self-serving way. If you did, you wouldn't do your level best to convince people that supporting Palestinians is something only assholes do. Have you even fucking donated actual money to them or do you just try your hardest to alienate folks who have?


ETA: You know... I'm not even trying to ask anyone to shut up. Keep speaking out. I'm mostly just exhausted when my comments become a convenient prompt to post someone's anti-Biden screed. Post all that shit as a top-level comment. I just don't have the emotional bandwidth right now to deal with how awful Biden was on this issue when there are currently so many more present problems to contend with including what can actually be done to help Palestinians now rather than 5 months ago.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

There's not a president in the last fifty years who would've done anything different.

https://www.nytimes.com/1982/08/13/world/reagan-demands-end-to-attacks-in-a-blunt-telephone-call-to-begin.html

2025 - 1982 = 43

even fucking reagan did more to rein in israel than biden. even fucking reagan

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Donated and marched many many times. Long before October 7th too.

The thought that my comment could alienate someone who supports Palestine is hilarious

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No this was pretty relevant during the election and now.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It wasn't relevant to the election. If every single person who didn't vote for Kamala over Gaza had voted for her, she still would not be President. Folks who withheld their vote aren't to blame for Trump, but they also did nothing to move the Democratic Party.

This outrage over Gaza is the loudest and most prolonged I've seen over any of them, and it still doesn't have any traction. And so I say it isn't relevant today. Republicans don't care. Democrats (the party) don't care. And it's not doing a fucking thing to help Palestinians.

That doesn't mean I don't support the people of Gaza. It doesn't mean I'm happy with the status quo. It means if you want to make a real change, you have to go about it a different way. I don't see this working.

Do you know when it will be relevant? When Democrats have some power and need the support of pro-Palestinian Congress members to pass bills. Until then, this is just impotent rage.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

Lol. The Democratic party won't move. And it's not entirely known how many votes and states were lost due to the refusal to do anything other than promote a genocide. If you want to look at the number of uncommitted votes, that will dramatically under count the people who would not vote for these candidates.

As for trying other tactics, I would suggest you look at what you're suggesting. Consider how that has led us to the current political situation. And try to think outside the confines of the democratic party.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

so you're saying someone going through cancer treatment (which is pretty harsh and melts your brain, actually) while being president is a private matter? aight.

[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Eat shit, zionist fuck. God DAMN it I hate liberals like you. you couldn't fathom that people believe in anything because you believe in nothing.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Zionist. Right. I have done actual shit that can make a difference like donate money and contacting legislature instead of bringing it up every time Biden's name is dropped.

But hey, go fuck yourself. This comment has been helpful for expanding my block list to include folks I have no time for. Good luck saving lives with your savage burns on the internet.

[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Too stupid; didn't read

I don't owe you an audience for your bullshit. Have a shitty day.

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