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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

You know, even with all the crazy xenophobia happening in the US, my mexican middle class circle is still eager to migrate to the US. The american dream propaganda is so deeply internalized that it's frankly very sad to see.

[–] Jin008@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh my fucking god yea. I was talking to a person in their mid-to-late 20s who was going on a date with a US Marine who for whatever reason was going to be in Southeast Asia. And they don't even get a visceral reaction when knowing the person is US military, but what's more they said it might be an opportunity to get a green card.

So I just stated what is happening to people to even people who are getting green cards in the US. And they don't want to listen, and Americans said it was ok and still act like it's just Trump. How fucking stupid can you be? You want to move to a county where almost everyone is barely getting by, nobody owns a home, your chance of getting killed just because you're not white is so fucking high it's not even funny, and he county is literally doing gestapo shit so blatantly now it's literally unignorable. But apparently it can be ignored, I honestly believe if you still move to the US, you get what's coming to you. You literally cannot be this fucking stupid and ignorant. If you want to stay in an echo chamber and not listen to people because you grew up watching Hollywood or whatever, nobody can help you.

(Sorry for ranting comrades)

[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 4 weeks ago

The "American dream" propagandists are working overtime in Facebook, Twitter and other social media to sell the "beautiful" life of working in the US with a TN visa. Due to "el aspiracionismo" fallacy, lots of people are still falling to those lies of "success".

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago

Reminds me of this one time, when I still used reddit, ran into somebody who was talking about being an immigrant and something about how they'd managed to succeed. I think I had tried to give them some socialist style commentary and it turned out that they were a landlord of a kind, and I was pretty blunt with them about the ridiculousness of their "success" being to become an exploiter.

I guess I think of it because some people who are migrants can technically succeed, if we consider the "American dream" to be "become the oppressor." But that's nothing to be proud of and few can do that even if they all had so little of a conscience to try.