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[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Note the use of "rebuild" ... BBC always framing it as if it was Israels land to begin with.

Which wording would you propose they use?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well first of all they are not "settlements" they are military outposts because the people living there are usually ex soldiers that are armed. But even ignoring that, the neutral wording for the BBC would be "active in the movement to settle Gaza" and if they want to be a little more honest then they could write "active in the movement of vigilante annexation of Gaza" because that is what the Israeli "civilians" are doing there actually.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So "active in the movement to settle" is different from "settling" for you?

I think the problem is that your personal interpretation of ´settlement´ is more positive than what it means in reality

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Again... they wrote "active in the movement to rebuild settlements in Gaza" that, to me at least, would suggests that they are peacefully rebuilding something that was already theirs.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Again, if you interpret Israelis settling in Gaza as ´peacefully´ taking something ´already theirs´ then that´s more of a you problem than a BBC problem

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think you are confused.

if you interpret Israelis settling in Gaza as ´peacefully´ taking something

I am clearly doing the opposite of that, so what are you talking about? Consider actually reading my comments instead of just skimming over them and completely misconstruing what i am saying. I have no idea how you managed to twist this in your head into thinking that i see the Israelis behavior as peaceful. I am calling the BBC out for framing the Israelis as peaceful instead of calling them out on their warcrimes.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can only interpret the wording the BBC is using in the way you propose if you believe settling in Gaza is a peaceful affair

No-one is reading that BBC article thinking the Gazans are peacefully evacuating their homes so their jewish friends can rebuild their settlement

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You don't seem to actually be reading what they said, they repeatedly made it clear that their issue was with the term "rebuild", which you keep carefully omitting.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you think readers will completely ignore what they want to rebuild?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's the point; they're not 'rebuilding' anything. They're building new illegal settlements in occupied land, and it's wildly dishonest of the BBC to try and imply otherwise.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They had settlements there before, and now they want to build them back. It´s really weird to franctically want to avoid the word ´rebuild´ in this case

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

Just so we´re clear: your entire argument hinges on the idea that Israelis didn´t have settlements in Gaza before?