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[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 61 points 2 days ago (16 children)

DEAR LORD PEOPLE, SOMETIMES THERE IS NOT A DEEPER MESSAGE AND IT'S JUST A DUMB JOKE!

Seriously, check out the other comics by this artist. They just like absurdist humor, like this one:

[–] JayDee 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

Don't be anti-intellectual about this silly comic. People can apply intellectual analysis to stupid things if they want to, and they damn-well may find deeper meaning sometimes.

Let people have their hobbies.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Sure, but that also means that I get to make my own contribution to the discussion. 😀

[–] JayDee -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, you get to make your own contribution because we're on an open platform, not for any other reason. quite often intellectual spaces shut down and deplatform anti-intellectual rhetoric and thought-terminating cliches such as what you've stated. It serves no one discussing the intricacies of any work to have someone yelling "The curtains were fucking blue!", and this comment section literally exists to discuss the above comic and its various aspects.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Example intellectual comments being posted here:

I didn’t realize neckbeard atheists oppressed so many people compared to religion, thanks to the author for opening my eyes

So many militant atheists. Saying so much, all just to prove the comic right.

Having said that, my specific objection is not to all of the discussion taking place here, but to the fact that a lot of the comments seem to be projecting their own personal viewpoints onto the comic.

Also, I was not shouting people down; I was speaking in all caps to be funny. It's fine if you personally did not think I funny, but that was the intent (which in retrospect could probably have been conveyed more clearly if I had also dropped the comma so that it was purely a stream of words), just like it was the intent of the comic author to make a dumb joke rather than to state a strong opinion about atheists. I think that it is useful to separate the intent of what an author was trying to accomplish from your own thoughts on the subject.

[–] JayDee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's somewhat my bad for taking the adversarial tone of your original comment to being serious and about all comments looking into the comic's unsaid meanings.

At the same time, though, the comic is 100% meant to make fun of militant atheists, as in atheists who make their whole personality atheism. The folks who's sole goal seemingly is to make everyone stop being religious. And the punchline is that despite achieving his goal, he only managed to make his mother's life worse by forcing her through an epiphany she wasn't ready for and then abandoning her with her own thoughts. The comic is partially funny because of it making fun of militant atheists. The other portion of the humor is the absurd nature of the situation.

The first comment you show takes that joke personally and the second resonates with that message. Neither of these are really off the mark, as grating as their tones may be to some.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree completely that the comic is parodying a particular cliche of a militant atheist. I disagree that the intent was to provide serious social commentary.

And I did not find either of those comments grating; I was merely citing them as evidence that not all of the discussion here is "intellectual". Honestly, the real avenue of criticism that was left open to you that I was expecting you to take was to point out, correctly, that they were heavily cherry-picked for their unreasonableness; it actually surprises me a bit that instead you called them not "really off the mark" as if they were inherently reasonable responses.

[–] JayDee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, that's what satire is. A parody of something to criticise it. Often using clichés to ensure the subject is immediately identifiable.

This comic is a satire of militant atheists, because the author finds that militant atheists are insufferable and deserve to be made fun of, as the comic is doing. Why else would the author choose them specifically to satirize?

You chose those two comments to point at examples of unintellectual discussion. I am pointing out that they are not as unintellectual as you paint them to be. I don't strongly agree with what they are saying, but that does not immediately disqualify them from contributing from the conversation. Your comment was the only one calling for the termination of the pursuit of deeper meaning in the comic, which is an anti-intellectual stance.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, I see your point now; this is basically just like how the author was making the point that refrigerator stores have an annoying way of trying to sell people butthole pictures in this comic:

Your comment was the only one calling for the termination of the pursuit of deeper meaning in the comic, which is an anti-intellectual stance.

I have no desire to terminate anything. For someone going to so much trouble to express how much you care about the importance of intellectual discussion, you are working extremely hard to avoid engaging your intellect when it comes to my comments.

[–] JayDee 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Your original comment reads

DEAR LORD PEOPLE, SOMETIMES THERE IS NOT A DEEPER MESSAGE AND IT'S JUST A DUMB JOKE!

It's pretty blankly a thought terminating cliché without your later clarification, same as the noteable "The curtains were fucking blue" meme. Even with your clarification, you are now bringing up yet another one of the comics to try and show there is no deeper substance to find from these comics, which I disagree.

With most of these comics, the author does enjoy using absurd humor. But they do still have some grounding in real things. The first example you give is poking fun at taking the saying 'you can do anything you set your mind to' and the second is a joke about dual-businesses, with the premise being, generically, a business with one service that's normal and another service that's something almost no one is going to request.

There's still some interesting things within that you can get from looking closer at them, even when they're absurd by nature. Again, let people have their hobbies. Don't try to make people feel like fools for picking silly comics apart.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

To be sure, my comment was absolutely a dumb cliché! If your response to it was to feel like a fool, though, then that's on you. 😉

[–] JayDee 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That wasn't my personal experience from the comment. I simply recognised it as anti-intellectual virtue signalling and didn't want that to go unchallenged. It just seemed very clear that the intent of your comment was to belittle those picking the comic apart.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 1 points 15 hours ago

That seems incredibly silly; why on earth should I care about whether random people on the Internet think I have superior virtue or not? I am too busy making sure that they recognize my superior sense of humor!

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