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I suck at converting liberals (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 month ago by SovietReporter@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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I was talking to a friend yesterday who is also a coder. His parents are Chinese from the region where Hong Kong is, but he was raised in America. And he kept saying that capitalism is not perfect, but is the best that we got and that there is not real freedom on socialism because you cannot vote the poliburo out and that Marxism has been tried and didn’t work out but that capitalism adapts to the real world with trial and error and blah blah.

No matter what I said, he wouldn’t yield. We spent an hour and a half on a discussion about it. It ended up with him saying “We are not going to convince each other so let’s stop”. Mind you that he was the one who kept asking me question but barely let me speak.

He was like “I read about Marxism, and I just realized that it doesn’t apply to the real world”

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[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 month ago

We spent an hour and a half on a discussion about it.

There's some line from Mao about how you can't expect to change people's political beliefs -- which they formed through a lifetime of experience -- in a short conversation or lecture. Persuading people (even limiting this to those who can be perduaded) to radically reshape the way they see the world takes time and patience.