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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I didn’t call Biden a fascist. But historically liberals will side with fascists or try to entice fascist vote instead of trying to rally with leftists, which historically has lead to fascism, to the point where it’s literally part of the fascist tactic that political theorists like Carl Schmitt wrote about to destroy liberal democracy. And Biden is exactly that.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Leftists don't have a person to rally around, and some leftists rallied around MAGA. So leftists either sat out, or sided with fascists.

What did you expect liberals to do in this situation?

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

We expect liberals to pressure politicians who side with genocide to not do that. We expect liberals to actually give a shit in the primaries. We expect liberals to at the very least not stop protests claiming that “violent protest doesnt help the cause.” We expect liberals to support politicians that want to make change. We want actually SOMETHING out of the supposed relationship we are supposed to have to stop fascism. But all you do is promote fascist imperialism light and then blame us when that tried and failed system hasn’t worked for my entire life.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

And if the liberals don't do a good enough job you just side with the fascists to teach the liberals a lesson?

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This. The "leftists" arguing for accelerationism are welcome to go to any of the fascist countries they love so much. They don't need to keep trying to force America down the same path.

Last I checked, Authoritarian rule under a single leader screaming about the importance of "merit" isn't found on the left of the spectrum.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

lmao the US doesn't need help "going down" the path of fascism. They paved the road. Over a black neighborhood.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 days ago

historically liberals will side with fascists or try to entice fascist vote instead of trying to rally with leftists

Are there stats on this I can check out? Like numbers on documenting times a lib government in various countries was in power when a fascist movement gained ground, and then whether the ruling coalition decided to work to support or quash the movement.