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You're comparing a full size to a mid size, crew cab vs regular cab
If you compare the same model (two F150 for example) with the same type of body (crew cab 6' bed) you quickly realize that their size hasn't increased by that much since the 90s (and the growth mostly comes from having to meet safety standards). If you use proportions the same model of car will have blown up way more over the same period (example: the mk6 Jetta is the size of a 12 years older Passat).
I thought their point was that they hate the large size, not that they were comparing apples to apples
Thing is barely anyone actually buys regular cabs so from the get go it's a bad comparison as sure those small trucks existed, but there weren't that many on the road. When you look at an extended cab mid size with 6' bed truck today vs in 1995 you end up with a truck that is taller sure (the design makes it look worse than it actually is really), but isn't actually that much larger or longer. The same thing is true for all trucks if your compare apples to apples.
If you then take cash tests into consideration well things don't look good for those small trucks from back in the day... Body-on-frame isn't the best for crumple zones and stuff like that, but it's necessary to take actual load.
So yeah, people can complain that super small trucks don't exist anymore but if they did they wouldn't buy them anyway.
I don't think you're right about a lot of this unless you consider only america.
That's where the complaints come from so yes North America is the market I'm talking about
Truck specs aren't hard to find either, people don't bother checking the actual measurements though and instead rely on bad comparisons like a Ford Ranger with a regular cab vs an F150 with a crew cab to prove their point
Not necessarily, those kinds of huge vehicles are showing up in Europe too and a lot of Europeans HATE them. And this article is about the Chinese not liking them...
And you're missing the point entirely. The complaints are coming from people that are specifically ignoring the class of truck when comparing, as they do not want larger classes to even exist. They do not believe these enormous monstrosities should be a thing, so why in the world would they ever compare them to other trucks they consider monstrosities? "Hey guys see, out of these two things I hate, one is worse!" ???
Then compare a Ford Ranger (like on the picture) from back in the day to a current model year and you'll soon realize that with the same build they're pretty similar in size, as I mentioned before. You can't complain that X got bigger if your comparison is with Y. Small trucks still exist, people don't compare with them because it would prove their point moot.
If they don't want larger classes of trucks to exist at all they should stop saying that "things were better back then" and should instead say "these things shouldn't have been invented back in 1953!" but that's not what they do becausr they created a fictional world in their minds where full size trucks weren't full size trucks 30 years ago.
I somehow doubt you cannot understand the point, you just want to ignore it. Yes, people are saying trucks have gotten bigger but they clearly mean by that "larger, more dangerous vehicles now exist where I live and I don't like it"
And you don't understand the point that no they haven't gotten that much bigger if you actually stop being dishonest and compare trucks of the same type instead of comparing two different trucks.
"I'm looking at my girlfriend sub compact hatchback and my SUV and damn, cars sure did get much bigger over the two years between their production!"
That's the level of intelligence in this exchange.
You're wrong. I don't need to prove it. It doesn't matter what anyone is comparing when you can easily look around and see more large trucks on the road, especially outside of America where large trucks were rare until recently. You'd have to be intentionally ignoring this fact to not notice, which you are.
Again, numbers don't lie, go check the dimensions of a crew cab Long box F150 from 20 years ago vs today and the size isn't that different.
"But my eyes tell different!"
Yeah, that's why your don't rely on your eyes and your rely on actual spec sheets.
Sure hope you stay far from any field that has to do with measurements.
I sure hope you stay away from any field that involves counting items or using judgement
I specifically keep telling you that individual model sizes have nothing to do with the point, but that's all you will cling to. Because it's all you have
Using judgement is what I'm doiny and what you seem unable to do.
"That 1968 Mini is so much smaller than that 2003 Ford Transit, damn cars are so much bigger these days!"
Does that make sense to you? No? Well the picture posted previously used the same logic and you're defending it.
My dad has a brand new reg cab f250 long bed (8ft) and it is quite bigger than his 88' reg cab f150 long bed.
Also, people would absolutely by small trucks if they were available. The ford ranger was a top seller all the way until they discontinued it. The maverick struggles to stay on lots.. there is clearly demand, but they dont have big profit margins like the mid size market has.
F250 vs F150, compare both for the same year and it will be the same story.
Are people being oblivious on purpose or something?