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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 95 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (39 children)

Fucking newspapers these days, this shit is important.

https://archive.ph/3X3Fe

OK, so the same shit about "trump is going to". last I heard newsom was in charge of CA NG. Trump isn't allowed to bring them up without a declaration of emergency or whatever.

Just bullshit that they will walk back in the morning.

e: LA times and AP seem to think this is actually happening. This is the boiling point; are you going to sit in the pot or jump out?

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (36 children)

My only complaint (and I get to blame Regan) is that we can’t open carry here in Cali. That would help stop a lot of federal response if we had that capacity again.

I’m not for destroying government property since that’s property that belongs to the people, but I also respect that change doesn’t happen with complacency. Plus if it was a peaceful protest for Jan 6ers then why is this not considered one?

Every day I wish we didn’t have the current admin in charge since they lack capacity and bandwidth to take care of the real economic issues facing our generation and time.

Completely agree though that the national guard is in control of the governor. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if Newsom agrees to bring them in if the feds kick in FEMA funding like they’re supposed to.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Open carry would have stopped NOTHING.

Flashing a gun at those GI Joe wannabes would have triggered their tiny brains to go into shoot to kill mode, and it would have been a massacre.

These dimwits are trained for full blown military responses. That's easy for them, they have the gear, the training, and the psychopaths to shoot on sight.

What they can't handle is massive civil disobedience, because they can't arrest 100k, 500k, 1 million people who are out there lawfully protesting.

But it's nutjobs like you, or that moron who sped their car at the agents, who will fuck it up for everyone.

Don't bring your gun. Keep it at home, and if shit gets to the point where they start killing people, then defend yourself.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't bring your gun. Keep it at home, and if shit gets to the point where they start killing people, then defend yourself.

With what? Left weapon at home.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They aren’t going to kill many unarmed protesters, especially initially. There’s a reason they stopped at 4 during the Kent state fiasco.

Most of us will be fine and able to go home and plan for guerrilla tactics that have a better chance of survival later.

Edit: decided to emphasize my point even though only one person apparently missed it.

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I love how you mention “they” aren’t going to kill unarmed protestors, and then proceed to mention a literal event in which they did. This country is founded on the government and corporations killing unarmed protestors.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He never said they aren't going to kill anyone.

He said they aren't going to kill many.

Which is true, up until a bunch of people pull guns, and then they'll kill everyone.

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What’s the acceptable number of dead people before also showing you’re armed is acceptable? Is it 5? 10? Maybe 1000?

If you pull up with guns they may kill you, but you have a better fighting chance than not. Plus if you were already going to die, since you’re so kind to sacrifice some people, wouldn’t you rather take some of them with you?

You’re playing by a made up set of rules where you think you being more moral than them makes you superior but it makes you dead and a loser.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

There is no acceptable amount of civilian murders. The Fascists know this, and so they want an excuse to justify it. Bringing guns to protests gives them an excuse. It also makes the armed protestors the first targets of the thug forces, and triggers the cops’ shitty ingrained fear of everyone trying to kill them—that the fucking “training” they get—fills them with.

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