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Planning for the future - a flaw in the design of Lemmy (and Kbin) (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by TerryMathews@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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Hey all, so I've been trying to embrace the fediverse life. My background - I've been on the internet since pre-WWW, so I've seen it all.

I think there's a structural issue in the design of Lemmy, that's still correctable now but won't be if it gets much bigger. In short, I think we're federating the wrong data.

For those of you who used USENET back in the early days, when your ISP maintained a local copy of it, I think you'll pick up where I'm going with this fairly quickly. But I know there aren't a ton of us graybeards so I'll try to explain in detail.

As it's currently implemented, the Fediverse allows for multiple identically named communities to exist. I believe this is a mistake. The fediverse should have one uniquely named community instance, and part of the atomic data exchanged through the federation should include the instance that "owns" the community and a list of moderators. Each member server of the Fediverse should maintain an identical list of communities, based on server federation. Just like USENET of yore.

This could also be the gateway into instance transference. If the instances are more in-sync, it will be easier to transfer either a user account or a community.

This would eliminate the largest pain point/learning curve that Lemmy has vs Reddit.

Open to thought. And I'll admit this isn't fully fleshed out, it was just something I was thinking about as I was driving home from work tonight

Lemmy is good, but it could be great.

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[-] jamon@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 year ago

There are better solutions to the problem. For example, letting communities follow other communities. It's simple and flexible.

Take a look at the discussion here https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3071#issuecomment-1595303910 or my diagram of one proposed solution.

[-] rcmaehl@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

This is genius, please devs 🙏

[-] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

What if a post is acceptable by the rules/mods at instance b but the post breaks the rules at instance a?

Options:

Instantly stop syncing? Seems dramatic
Mods align rules? Utopia
Mods keep rules misaligned and users seek out preferred instance? Most likely outcome but this would still create a weird multi-tonal vibe in 'mixed' communities at the user level experience unless instances can find a way to express themselves with a localised 'style'.