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Removal of piracy communities (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by lwadmin@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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Earlier, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were:

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assistance in obtaining it.

This decision is about liability and does not mean we are otherwise hostile to any of these communities or their users. As the Lemmyverse grows and instances get big, precautions may happen. We will keep monitoring the situation closely, and if in the future we deem it safe, we would gladly reallow these communities.

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

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[-] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

If people leave to run their own piracy lemmy depending on where they host it they will probably get raided and have no lemmy.

The commenter obviously don't understand that at lemmy.world it hosts copies of content outside its instance which is why you block communities if you don't defend the whole instance.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

If people leave to run their own piracy lemmy depending on where they host it they will probably get raided and have no lemmy.

The "FAFO" approach

[-] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 11 months ago

I can host an instance. I don't care about "raiding". If you get raided, it means you have not properly separated your online and real identities.

[-] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

Well, for starters if we looked at lemmy.dbzer0.com we can see the domain is held by tucows which is based in Canada which are a copyright protection friendly country. Sure the server is hosted on njalla.net which is based in Sweden. How hard do you think it would be for the FBI to gain the info they needed to:

Figure out who pays the bills and owns the server?
Get a copy of the server data for analysis?

The only way to resist this would be to host your instance on the darknet with good sec even then that is not 100%.

[-] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

Again, if you properly separate your identities, than the answer to both questions is simply impossible, since you are not the one figuring on the bill. The only thing they can achieve is link you to some IP behind 2 VPNs and 5 proxies, good luck to them if they want to dig through all that while avoiding you noticing and simply deleting all data from one of them making you completely separated from any illegal activity.

[-] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

And why do you think so many cyber crimes are left unsolved? The authorities know that sometimes it is not worth going after some even semi-major criminal if they know what they are doing.