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[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 84 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

God damn America. We're such fucking scumbags dude. Fuck our imperialism.

Look forward to further fascist policies domestically now. Anyone against Trump now is going to get labeled an enemy of the state during war time.

We are so fucking dumb and bloodthirsty. This is just 2003 but somehow with an even dumber president and far far less allies.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"[...] four [countries] contributed troops to the invasion force (the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia and Poland). An additional 37 countries provided some number of troops to support military operations after the invasion was complete." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing_%28Iraq_War%29)

Far far less for sure. Although are quite some far right leaders in Europe right now. Perhaps Hungary and Italy are on their way already.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

Hungary is busy trying to set off another Balkan conflict

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah. My point is more so about how America is viewed by the rest of the world and it's Allie's today in comparison to Iraq. We are far far less respected. World's done with pretending to believe our lies.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess the countries sceptical or hostile back than didn't really have much reason to change their mind about us. But Trump sure did a lot of damage to the relationship with befriended countries, guess all he has left are strategic allies with a similar world view. But I guess that's what autocrats want after all. Who needs friends if you've got power. But for me personally, even though my view on american people didn't change much my desire to support them definitely increased. If i were to meet someone from the US tomorrow that person would likely get a better treatment from me than if I had met him a few years ago. Not that i feel sorry for them or anything, but i just am really glad im not in their shoes. Had a colleague from Russia years ago, who left a hostile nation behind. Think I'd feel similarly for someone migrating from the US.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Unpopular opinion. But we'd be here if Trump was never elected. The US has wanted reason to invade Iran for decades. Trump definitely does damage to America's image. But, as far the the third world's image of America, no one did more damage than Biden did with his Genocide of Gaza.

The main point being. US imperialism is not directed by the president alone. It is directed by Americas defense industry and military industrial complex. I think the main difference between Trump or a Biden/Harris would be the aesthetics. And maybe going through the steps of Congress. But this war is what Imperialism is demanding.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 6 points 6 days ago

I agree, the us' imperialism is driven by a lot more than just a few individuals at the top. The 'aesthetics' would likely have kept a lot more allies on board. But the biggest change I see is how the powers driving the country are not only hurting a lot of people outside of the US (which goes for most developed countries), but is also more and more hurting people inside the US (similar to oppression in autocratic countries).

As far as the war in Iran goes I'm not so sure, if Democrats would have continuously stayed in power, the deal would most likely be up. But then the defense industry would still push for war somewhere else, so who knows what the world would have looked like. I'm not convinced it would look better.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Exactly. There's a reason Dem leadership isn't condemning this.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah. American foreign policy is always bipartisan. How they decide to spin it is the only difference between parties.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

Why would they? AIPAC wants this and funds both sides to they always get what they want.