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[–] Tillyrblue@lemmy.world -5 points 10 hours ago (25 children)
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (15 children)

Which is worse, the person who says they want to hurt you and then does it, or the person who says they want to help you and then doesn't? Progressivism is still a beneficial ideal, and some Democrats fight for it, while others pay lip-service because they will say anything to be elected. But Conservativism is a plague upon humanity, leeching resources and power to feed those willing to harm others to get it.

So yeah, you can blame the mostly corrupt "good guys" along with the fundamentally selfish "bad guys," but that doesn't make them equivalent sides.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (12 children)

Dems deliver, but it's always "n n not good enough" for certain people.

Inb4 replies: The Dems need all 3 houses to pass anything. They've had that for, drumroll please, 4 years of the last 24 years. That's 2 years under Obama and 2 under Biden. Go back further to include Bill Clinton and it's 6 years of the last 32 years. Go further and it's 6 years of the last 44 years. And you wonder why progress is slow?

[–] rodneyck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

You mean delivering NAFTA, sending all the US jobs oversees, which makes up a lot of the rot today, thanks to Clinton? Or do you mean Obama, who bailed out the banks for causing the biggest housing crisis, displacing people from their homes, who turned around and gave all their CEO's bonuses? The Obama who did nothing to help the people with no homes and did nothing to prevent round two, which analyst predict will happen again, soon? Oh yes, that slow progress.

The uni-party system is corporate/oligarch controlled and corrupt.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Clinton ran on it's the economy stupid. It's practically a miracle that anyone wins against an incumbent. But I have to mention this part "You mean delivering NAFTA, sending all the US jobs oversees" Lolololololol. In case you don't realize, Canada and Mexico are not overseas. China trade was Nixon. Clinton did what now seems impossible: balance the budget.

Obama. Like it or not but bank failure would have turned the great recession into the 1930s depression. You being mad about this just tells me you want to rage instead of think logically. That's twice so far (nafta overseas was the first). But anyway, Obama delivered Healthcare which you conveniently leave out.

Yeah it's clear you just want to rage, so this is my only reply. So I say it again: 4 years of control out of the last 24 years. Want more progress? Then you need to vote them in more.

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