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https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

Stop Killing Games is an European Citizens Initiative aiming to keep games playable even after their developers and publishers have stopped supporting it.

To get the initiative onto the EUs agenda so it has the chance to become EU law, it has to both reach 1 million signatures total and minimum thresholds in at least 7 countries. Those national thresholds have been thresholds have been reached. Now it's all about getting to 1 million signatures total.

Even if you are from a country that already reached the threshold you can still sign. Your signature counts to the 1 million goal.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Man what the fuck are you talking about, it requires an EU, country specific verification document(s)/id(s), or the intraEU digital ID to verify you are an actual real person who lives where you say you do.

Examples:

Estonia

Portugal

Poland

... etc.

[–] TheChargedCreeper864@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm with you with the fact that I don't believe there to be any serious botting attempts, but I didn't need a digital ID to sign from the Netherlands.

I think they will verify with the municipality of the person who signed whether they actually exist. Theoretically you could sign on someone you know this information for, but I think IP logging would burn you pretty quick if even one of those is bogus/duplicate.

Also, I don't know whether such signatures would be counted before any verification would take place

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I mean yeah, technically there will be some EU member states with different guidelines (due to different id/privacy laws) where maybe yes, a few of them could theoretically maybe be pumped up by a bot.

But uh, for some thing... you'd need a fairly well done bot net to even kind of pull that off for long.

As in like, a new and convincingly distinct bot/ip to burn for each signature, that is actually an ip that makes geo sense for the person/real world address it is spoofing...

As you say: basic ip logging.

If its all coming from... a single, or small number of ips... assuming the EU is at least as competent of a server admin as I am, yeah, that's gonna look pretty fuckywucky in the logs, probably get noticed within 24 hours max.

And yes, I also seriously doubt there would not be some kind of verification of signees at at least some level, that would be initiated after all the thresholds are passed.

But its wildly innacurate to portray this as if... oh yeah any idiot vibe coder could just drill this up to whatever number after 30 minutes.

That was the way the internet worked back in 2006, or how stupid say Twitter polls are now.

Not the same level of inept incompetence going on with EU government websites.