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Is there anything that china might want that would make them fully stop supporting Russia
Why would they stop supporting Russia? China has been under economic attack by the US for three administrations now and the US has been encircling them with military bases. The EU hasn't helped. From Chinese perspective, their sovereignty is not assured and it's doubtful that the EU or the US would demonstrate new friendship if they stopped supporting Russia. In that case, throwing one of their main sources of fossil fuels and a giant buffer under the bus doesn't seem like a good proposition. In a war scenario with the US, the oil shipments from the Gulf are likely to stop one way or another which makes Russian fossil fuels that much more important.
I agree, so what they would want is equal partnerships with the EU and the US. I get that it's unlikely or near impossible to happen, but I was wondering what could actually be a solution for them to drop russia.
I don't know. Honestly probably nothing. I think the commies rightfully see EU and US capitalist democracies as being one bad election away from fascism and for a good reason. Examining the trajectories of our politoeconomic systems, we have been on that trend for a long time now. We're not doing anything meaningful to stop it. So from their perspective, they understand that our capitalist systems are unsustainable and they understand the right ideologues are diametrically opposed to socialism around the world and have used military and economic force against it in the 20th century. I'm pretty sure they see this happening again, aimed at them and they would need to be able to protect themselves. Having a gas station or two that are isolated from the rest of the world is a great asset in this scenario. So I think the best we could do is getting Russia to agree to some compromise which would most likely include significant land loss for Ukraine. Unless there's a military solution that someone is willing and able to fight. Maybe if the US goes full in weapons supply to Ukraine. Don't know.