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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Which cannot be blindly extrapolated to the rest of the country.

Progressives can't win anywhere until they do. Then they can't win anywhere except where they just won. Convenient for people who don't want progressives to be permitted to run under any circumstances.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Progressives can win in very progressive regions and have been doing it for decades. Bernie has been a senator for decades, but lost by a wide margin to Clinton. AOC has been a representative for a while. The country just ain't that into it as a whole, they prefer a convicted criminal to a progressive.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Bernie has been a senator for decades, but lost by a wide margin to Clinton.

The party's ratfucking works most of the time, yes. When it works, people who like the results tout them as indicative of what the results would be without the ratfucking. When the party's ratfucking fails, it's never indicative of broader trends in the electorate.

Conveniently. Your wing of the party prefers trump to any progressive in all cases.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm European so none of your mess of a political system is mine in any way. Even in the European system I'm left of center, so something Americans don't even imagine.

That doesn't prevent me from seeing that by and large the American population has rejected progressives at every step, and some delusional people on the internet keep blaming the DNC and seeking excuses, just because a progressive sometimes wins in NYC or southern California.

Enjoy the trump.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’m European so

so stick to being misinformed about your own region's politics.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Everything I don't like is misinformation. Don't ask questions."

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, you've spent this entire conversation conveniently ignoring the actions of the democratic party against progressives.

[–] Tja@programming.dev -1 points 4 days ago

Which had zero impact since Bernie lost by millions both times.

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