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Bud you think fraud doesn't happen? How naive are you? Businesses will happily commit fraud if they think they can get away with it. And they do, routinely.
Do you seriously think that I believe that fraud doesnt happen? What would give businesses the impression that they can commit fraud? Oh it would be people not suing the fuck out of them.
If its a slow day and your employer doesnt pay you the legal min wage then you sue them. Its that simple. You dont turn around and act like getting no tips that day was the reason you made $2.
You don't get paid daily, dipshit. What gives them the impression they can get away with it is because they rely on a convoluted system to obscure their fraud against vulnerable, such as the youth who do not fully understand their rights as workers, and the desperate who are taking bottom of the barrel jobs to make ends meet and don't want to risk putting their lifeline in jeopardy to stand up for their rights. A legal battle takes time, but rent is due and the fridge is empty right now.
Jesus Christ, you are naive. Holy fuck you're not even worth talking to. Fuck off with your myopic victim blaming rhetoric.
Is it really as simple as using your not money that you weren't paid to hire a lawyer, take off of work for even less money to sue your employer?
Where my "that was easy" button, I'm dying to press it.
For a wage theft case you would not need to pay a lawyer. There are plenty of lawyers that seek out these cases and pay themselves off the settlement. You would need to do is book a meeting and explain the case and show up in court once if you boss was stupid enough to fight it. Thats not a wildly impossible set of steps to take.
Also, a lot of states are right to work states, which is exactly what it doesn't sound like. What do you think happens when my employer finds out Im bringing a lawsuit against them?
What the fuck is your point? "What happens if they find out im suing them" If your employer doesn't pay you correctly and then fires you when you seek legal action they are fucked under the Fair Labor Standards Act. They've just increased their fine from up to 10k to add another 25k.
I actually perplexed why people are pushing back against my claim that people should seek to protect their federally protected work rights. The examples that have been brought up are open and shut cases that will be picked up by any law firm and they will sue for recomp + damages + lawyer fees. Yes its "harder" than doing nothing, but by doing nothing you do not fix the problem and continue to be exploited. There is no magic eye that can perfectly detect illegal activity its up to the victim to come forward and make their case thats how law works in our society.
Lol if it was that simple, wage theft wouldn't exist. These corporations can afford to steal your money, have calculated the risk, and continue to steal money.
They're not going to write down "brought lawsuit" they're going to find an arbitrary reason, or better yet write down "I didn't like that person" because it's a right to work state and even in non right to work states, labor protection is dogshit.
No, lets be clear wage theft covers a lot of things. Here we are talking about a very specific situation where an employer is clearly violating the FLSA. You can even see it in this thread, so many people dont even believe that its illegal. So they dont even know they can sue for it.
"they’re going to find an arbitrary reason, or better yet write down “I didn’t like that person” because it’s a right to work state and even in non right to work states" nah that does not hold up in court. A judge isnt going to look at an employer getting sued for wage theft and then said oh i guess you just happened to fire this person. Nah thats never goign to hold up. Also yes US labor laws are fucking dogshit but they exist.
They may succeed with the lawsuit, but that job is gone, and it's gone the moment it's filed.
The path of least resistance is unionization, and it would accomplish more faster.
Unionization is great but thats a much bigger ask and far less likely to suceed. And risker as the employee can be fired with no protection as soon as they're found trying to unionize.
I think employees should be trying to unionize as a default and then if they're the victim of wage theft seek legal recourse.
I can agree with the second part 100%
The first though, the same lack of employee protections against forming a union are the same that will get you canned for bringing a lawsuit.
Being fired for forming a union is a completely different case than committing wage theft then firing your employee for bringing it up.
The end result for the employee is the same. Very likely you and I, and statistically, 99% of the people potentially reading this.
Its not though. The employee is far more likely to win the wage theft case than the union firing case and I just think its wrong to try and dissuade people from fighting this issue. Its actively harmful to people to push that kind of a narrative.
I'm not dissuading anyone. Just laying our real world consequences for doing so. I've personally seen very little success with wage theft, the most common form of theft by the longest shot ever, compared with seeing companies unionize like once a month minimum. It helps more people and you're not just risking it by yourself.
People doing both would be great, but let's not pretend either will be just peachy.