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so, china's getting criticized by the "china is capitalist" camp (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 7 months ago by thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml to c/china@lemmygrad.ml

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thoughts on these critiques:

I mean, I don't think it's a camp so much so as it is reality. Dengism has pushed forth a disastrous capitalist restoration that every single CPC government has done ever since, workers have been continually disenfranchised and chinese capitalists pop up everywhere and establish businesses that exploit the proletariat
how can a country be a dotp without its basis of government being soviets they give bourgeois the right to vote and participate in government.
Beijing has legally and specifically preserved capitalist governance where it can during dengism (Basic Laws in Macau, Hong Kong), but even Hong Kong is being outcapitalisted by the mainland, with Shanghai and even Shenzhen surpassing Hong Kong in terms of commerce and trade, points of great pride for Beijing despite this very clearly not being socialist
the 1918 russian constitution officially denied political power to the nobility and bourgeoisie anyway, universal right to vote is inherently bourgeois. ALL POWER TO THE SOVIETS this is very basic stuff

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[–] burlemarx@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think many trots like to idealize Soviets, as some heavenly form of proletarian organization. One need to study the USSR experience to understand that Soviets were simply a transitional form of organization and had issues in coordinating the economy in the national level.

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 7 months ago

The strange thing about Trots is that most seem to think the economy was essentially socialist (when in reality it was transitional) and that the government was the problem—not ‘democratic’ enough. The Soviets are seen as the one true democracy.