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Flipper Zero ‘DarkWeb’ Firmware Bypasses Rolling Code Security on Major Vehicle Brands
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this post was submitted on 08 Aug 2025
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Oy. Can someone gently explain to me how this won’t grow into something like the Kia stuff?
I don't think nearly as many people have flipper zeros as you might believe.
Also wasn't the kia stuff really easy to do and needed like no special tools?
KIA/Hyundai removed immobilizers from their US models because US regulations didn't require them so they didn't do it to save money.
Immobilizers check that the ignition was turned by the car's key. Without it, anything that turned the ignition would start the car. The ignition also isn't a keyhole. It's just a rectangular hole. So any object that fit in that hole could start a KIA/Hyundai
So I was right with it being easy and needing no special tools.
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Not yet…
But if a device you can make or buy lets criminals hang out at a parking garage for stadiums, entertainment venues, or airports, and either rummage through vehicles unimpeded or steal cars while their owners are unaware and pretty much guaranteed to be indisposed for a few hours, then it’s a near certain ROI with pretty low risk for them. (I know, cameras - but - hats, masks during winter, etc.)
And just wait until some unscrupulous vendor mass produces single-click solutions that do this - no display - interface simplified to a few button clicks. No fancy software defined radio. Bare-minimum chip. Then the ROI for criminals is really good.
We’ve seen an uptick in criminals using the CAN-BUS vulnerability to target specific cars. This is way easier and less obvious.
Yes. All you needed was something to use as a pry bar to remove the steering column cover and a USB connector to turn there ignition, which most people have in their cars anyway. There are videos on how to do it and it can be done by a teenager in seconds with no special tools. This requires a slight investment which means it probably won't become a fad for troubled teens.
You seem to be operating under the delusion that car theft is the domain of "troubled teens", gramps. 🤦🏼♂️
Well the kia theft in particular was. It was basically a fad among teens in some places to steal kias and go on joyrides in them. The Wikipedia article describes it as a tik tok fad but really it was more localized to specific cities so I would think peer pressure played a big role. Idk how to describe teens who are out there doing shit like this other than "troubled." All the videos I saw looked like they were wannabe gangsters or already in gangs but that wasn't all of them so I didn't know the best way to describe it.